But Illinois is about to overhaul the system that upended Ross’ life. Illinois’ Pretrial Fairness Act, which abolishes cash bail as a condition of pretrial release, will take effect Sept. 18, making Illinois the first state to end cash bail and a testing ground for whether — and how — it works on a large scale.

Judges can still keep people accused of serious crimes behind bars pretrial, but first would have to go through a more rigorous review of each case.

Critics say cash bail policies are especially unfair to Black people and other people of color. A 2022 federal civil rights report on cash bail systems found that courts tend to impose higher pretrial detention penalties on Black and Latino people, citing a study that showed Black men received bail amounts 35% higher than white men, and Latino men received bail amounts 19% higher than white men.

53 points

absolutely unequivocally a good thing. Cash bail is a purely evil system.

permalink
report
reply
19 points

It never made any sense to me.

permalink
report
parent
reply
27 points

It doesn’t make sense if you look at the US criminal justice system as a criminal justice system, but it makes a lot more sense if you look at the US criminal justice system as a feeder for for-profit prison systems, a way to demonize poverty, and a way to continue chattel slavery under the name “penal labor”

permalink
report
parent
reply
12 points

13th amendment

permalink
report
parent
reply
17 points
*

Same. Under the bail system, the judge can essentially say that the “accused” is a threat to society or a flight risk… but they have money so I’m gonna let them run free until trial. If they’re poor though, fuck 'em.

permalink
report
parent
reply
10 points
*

Yeah they haven’t been convicted but remain a prisoner…unless they pay an arbitrary amount of money to get out of jail? There’s gotta be a better way. People lose their jobs and houses waiting for their appearance in court. Most probably were arrested for good reason, but still.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

Supposedly the amount of bail is chosen based on the resources of the accused, to deter them from running. It probably doesn’t actually work out that way though

permalink
report
parent
reply
15 points

Really? Never made any sense??? Did you ever consider Thinking Like a Racist™️? 🌈🇺🇸

permalink
report
parent
reply
16 points

JB pritzker on a roll??

permalink
report
reply
17 points

When Pritzker first got elected I was incredibly dubious. After all, we already had Trump as President and here is Pritzker, another hotel magnate, claiming he could do great things for Illinois. I have since been pretty impressed with everything he has done.

permalink
report
parent
reply
13 points

He’s kinda been crushing it. Definitely a pleasant surprise. I think putting 50 million of his own dollars towards campaigning for a tax system that would dramatically raise his own taxes was a pretty impressive demonstration that his approach is a bit different from Trump’s.

Also women’s healthcare, refugee support structures, LGBT inclusivity, legal recreational weed, union support, Election Day as a state holiday…the dude doesn’t suck.

permalink
report
parent
reply
0 points

If only he could allow Illinois citizens to grow their own weed.

Nah. Still gotta look out for his buddies, lol.

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

same

permalink
report
parent
reply
12 points

He has been an excellent governor. All the conservatives in So. IL disagree, but when you ask them why, the literal only reason is “he raised the gas prices!!” They ignore the fact that Illinois has had a balanced budget for the last four years, that we are slowly climbing our way out of debt, that marijuana is legalized, cash bail has been ended, Southern Illinois has received a fuck load of infrastructure money, etc. They also ignore the fact that Southern Illinois is the prime reason WHY Illinois is so broke. Southern Illinois is where the majority of the people on snap, tanf, Medicaid, and other social programs are. They all conveniently ignore that though.

permalink
report
parent
reply
8 points

Conservatives sucking at the public teat while bemoaning the evils of “socialism”? Say it ain’t so!

permalink
report
parent
reply
5 points

They’re so deluded, they all see themselves as disenfranchised millionaire. So when the graduated income tax was proposed, they freaked the fuck out, when anything is raised that impacts the wealthy, they freak the fuck out. I was an attorney that dealt with some of the poorest people in Illinois, and the conservatives, despite living in a 40 year old trailer and not owning a vehicle because they couldn’t afford one STILL bitched about this stuff like it effected them in anyway, while having the audacity to ask me if I could help them commit Medicaid fraud in case they needed the state to pay for nursing home costs in the future.

permalink
report
parent
reply
11 points

New Mexico mostly eliminated cash bail about seven years ago but there was still issues . I hope Illinois learned from our mistakes when they wrote their law .

permalink
report
reply
4 points

What sort of issues did NM run into?

(And may I say, I love visiting and also am always surprised and amazed at how progressive and cool NM seems to be; I grew up in AZ… now in CO)

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points

What’s the difference between cash bail and non-cash bail?

permalink
report
reply
15 points

Cash bail is giving the court a lot of money as a pledge that you will show up for your trial. If you show up, you get the money back. The point is that it’s a life-changing amount of money and losing it would be worse than the consequences of being convicted.

Non-cash bail is mostly promising to show up for your court date and not commit any more crimes in the meantime, but there can be restrictions like wearing an ankle monitor and not leaving the state.

permalink
report
parent
reply
10 points

Also, if the crime is serious enough, the judge can rule to not release at all. One of the screaming points for conservatives in the state is that rapists and murder suspects are just going to be allowed to go free, which is not true at all. There is a list of serious crimes in the statute that judges are granted heavy discretion over in regards to whether the defendant should actually be released.

ALSO, think of this as a way to combat recidivism. One of the reasons people continue to commit crimes even when they’re incarcerated because they can’t afford bail is because they lose their jobs. They end up in jail for a week or more and don’t show up to work, they lose their job that was likely hard for them to get in the first place. It’s a major part of the prison industrial complex and the Right’s war against the poor. Ending cash bail takes away a major component of that.

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points
*
Deleted by creator
permalink
report
reply

News

!news@lemmy.world

Create post

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil

Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.

Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.

Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.

Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.

Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.

No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.

If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.

Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.

The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body

For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

Community stats

  • 14K

    Monthly active users

  • 20K

    Posts

  • 524K

    Comments