Like many of you, I woke up this morning to discover that our instance, along with lemmy.world, had been unexpectedly added to the beehaw block list. Although this development initially caught me off guard, the administrators at beehaw made an announcement shedding light on their decision.
The primary concern raised was our instance’s policy of open registration. Given my belief that the fediverse is still navigating its early stages, I believe that for it to mature, gain traction, and encourage adoption, it is crucial for instances to offer an uncomplicated and direct route for newcomers to join and participate. This was one of the reason I decided to launch this instance. However, I do acknowledge that this inclusive approach brings its unique challenges, including the potential for toxicity and trolls. Despite these hurdles, I maintain the conviction that our collective strength as a community can overcome these issues.
After this happened, the beehaw admins and I had a good chat about their decision. While our stances on registration policies might diverge, we realized that our ultimate goals are aligned: we both strive to foster communities that thrive in an atmosphere of safety and respect, where users can passionately engage in discussions and feel a sense of belonging.
Although the probability of an immediate reversal are slim given the current circumstances, I believe we have managed to identify common ground. It’s evident that, even in separation, we can unite to contribute positively to the broader fediverse community.
In the coming weeks or months, we plan to collaborate with other lemmy instance administrators to suggest enhancements and modifications to the lemmy project. Primarily, our proposals will concentrate on devising tools and features that empower us, as instance administrators, to moderate our platforms effectively.
In the meantime, while I understand may not be ideal for everyone, users who choose to participate on the beehaw instance will be required to register a separate account on their instance.
Thank you all for continuing to make this community great!
Oh, so the person who posted their tiny penis on the feminism community actually admitted to it? Fascinating. They do know their post lasted like two minutes, right? I was more impressed with Beehaw’s moderation team acting so fast than I was with their quick shot.
@anthoniix pooky trolled some fiminatzis, beehaw had a midlifechrisis and then unfederated. that’s it really. why that took a 5 page magnus opus i don’t know.
I’d just like to say that I appreciate your stance on open registration and making things as uncomplicated as possible. I signed up for a Beehaw account before this even happened, but I did find having to explain myself and justify my presence a little confusing. I also signed up for a discuss.tchncs.de account and I was so confused and thought their website was broken because once I clicked sign up, it didn’t do anything. Just span around in a circle. It wasn’t until I checked my email that I realised it wanted me to confirm my email. Here, things did just work. No complications, just entered my name, email and password, clicked sign up, and I was done! I guess you could say… shit just works on sh.itjust.works
In the meantime, while I understand may not be ideal for everyone, users who choose to participate on the beehaw instance will be required to register a separate account on their instance.
Might I also suggest alternatives such as lemmy.blahaj.zone which is open to anyone to register without explanation as long as, y’know, you’re not an asshole. Though it sounds like beehaw might block them in the future given their stance, but for now they’re federated.
I’m disappointed that we have to suffer because of a few bad apples but I can understand the situation. We’ll all have to do our part to report and remove these trash brain bigots from out instance. I really enjoy the laid back atmosphere of this instance but it is acutely vulnerable to trolls as evidenced by that shithead.
You don’t have to suffer. Everything posted on beehaw will be reposted elsewhere, that’s just the nature of the internet. And if you really want to interact with beehaw, just go make another free account over there.
And if you really want to interact with beehaw, just go make another free account over there.
IF they’ll let you in.
This is what’s flawed about lemmy and the fediverse.
You are not being genuine with your intentions.
Users should not be at your mercy. If you really cared, you would ask the community what and how they feel about this.
The issue with you and beehaw admins is you bullshit, and are not sincere about your intentions.
There is nothing admirable about lying to the users about what is REALLY going to happen.
Don’t bullshit and tell the truth.
Totalitarian rule is how you are going to run the instance.
No, this is what makes the fediverse work. It doesn’t matter if you are being honest with your intentions or not. It’s your instance, you get to do what you want with it - that’s the honest part. No tricking people for years and then charging them.
If you don’t like the actions an instance is taking, host your own.
Although this user is kinda huffing their own farts, I think they are speaking to something that needs to get solved in the long term.
If you make an account on an instance, create a bunch of posts and comments, then your instance makes a choice you totally disagree with… It’s easy for everyone to say just leave and find another instance, but leaving that history and effort behind kinda sucks. Even if you’re not at the mercy of an instance’s admins, your account is.
Lemmy/Kbin really need a mechanism to migrate an account so users are totally free to find their own home, and client apps need a way to transparently mix content from different accounts so you can join two instances that have de-federated from each other. Again, it’s easy to say you just need to make an account on each, but the UX of doing so is terrible.
Hopefully this is on the agenda and will get worked out in the future. Being able to seamlessly migrate to other federated sites feels like something that should be a priority, letting you easily move across to other instances if they align more with your beliefs and the content / rules they allow.
Something I find neat about this new setup is that crazy shit like this is the first comment I see scrolling down, despite its downvotes. Is this a better system that pushing upvoted comments to the top and downvoted ones being hidden? On first glance, I’m not 100% sure.
thats bc the default sort is by “active” which means that anything that has many comments and votes (more interactoins) will get pushed to the top. the way to solve it is by sorting by top. but the default one is active, which is similarish to sort by controversial on reddit.
Just switch from ‘Hot’ to ‘Top’ and it sorts how you would expect. I think Hot is basically ‘which post had an upvote/comment most recently’
e: oops, double post
