94 points

Can you please stop editorializing titles?

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You heard a cool new word and used it where it doesn’t work, this feature isn’t bad at all. If Signal didn’t alienate a large number of users by removing SMS maybe switching would be more viable.

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If Signal didn’t alienate a large number of users by removing SMS maybe switching would be more viable.

This. I hate Whatsapp, but I have to use it because that’s what everybody else (where I live) uses, so either I cave, or be Incommunicable by everyone and get used to explaining why while sounding like a dork.

I used Signal because, although a very small set of friends used it, I had an excuse to keep it because it handled SMS, and so I could keep it in the hopes that eventually WA would shoot itself in the foot and people would finally migrate, but since they removed SMS, why the hell would I hold on to it if I’d have no reason to other that I like it?

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In my experience, people might raise an eyebrow when you say you don’t have WhatsApp, but I never had to explain myself. Even then, saying “I don’t trust Facebook” will make most people understand.

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I don’t know the technical issues, buy couldn’t a fork of Signal revive SMS support? I would switch to such a fork and help everyone I know also do so.

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alienate a large number of users by removing SMS

Would you mind elaborating on this?

SMS in Signal was never secure (it’s SMS), and so it was removed. Now I have private messaging in Signal, and if some one sends me an SMS, it shows up in my stock texting app. No false sense of security and it’s very easy to use 2 apps.

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Yes I dropped signal when it stopped supporting sms. That was a really dumb choice and I honestly don’t know why they did it

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3 points

I’m curious, why that feature was so important for you?

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6 points

Because 90%+ of my contacts use sms (USA) and keeping touch across multiple apps is a huge pain. Like remembering which contact uses which service is stupid.

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Turning a messaging app for myself and friends into a data farming social media app full of paid promotions is absolutely the definition of enshittification.

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The enshittification actually began several years ago, back when FB bought WhatsApp. That was the moment you gave up on privacy, the moment that was a clear sign that it was all going to go downhill from there. If y’all didn’t quit WhatsApp at that time, then you bought it upon yourselves. The truth is, you’ve been using a shitty service for a long time and whoring your data to Meta and making Zuckerberg richer, so this latest feature bloat or w/e isn’t the least bit interesting.

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Unofficially, yes probably. But officially Facebook only upped the ante on user data connection from WhatsApp more recently according to their privacy policy. Sorry, “Meta”

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Idk why you’re being downvoted, you are 100% correct!

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56 points

Unless I’ve missed something I don’t see how this makes WhatsApp worse…? Just don’t sign up to the people’s channels if you don’t want to 🤷🏻‍♂️

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This is the beginning of monetizing the app after they started collecting user data a few months back. The more aggressively they decide to monetize, the more aggressive they’ll be about pushing promoted content. Remember when Instagram had no ads?

That’s how this works. And they’re certainly not going to choose to make less money off of their app over time with the market dominance that they have. Why would they when users will continue to use it?

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How is this turning it into a data farm? It did that when it plundered your address book, and kept track of who you messaged when.

Sure, they will probably stay monetizing it a few years from now, but right now they aren’t. Enshittification is a term with a very specific meaning, and it does not mean “features I don’t like”.

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Is it? How do you define enshittification?

Because adding paid promotions to something that never had them is always the beginning “making things worse” -ificaton.

The rest of this story is very predictable following Meta’s track record with social media. Everything will go to shit from a UX perspective now that they’ve decided to put ads in the app. That is how this works.

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28 points

I don’t get why everyone isn’t on signal. Its kind of a no brainier.

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8 points

Signal doesn’t have a marketing department worth billions or synergy with any popular platforms

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I only text people I know IRL and none of them are tech literate enough to use something other than the default messenger app, let alone hack anything to obtain sensitive info. And if a 3rd party wants to hack my messages, they’re gonna see a LOTTA penis and not anything important, so fuck it.

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So, they also don’t use WhatsApp, Instagram and so on, because they would need to install an app? Oo
Why even bother with a smart phone? WAP and MMS should suffice…

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2 points

Around here even the most tech illiterate use Whatsapp for messaging. No one™ with a smartphone uses the default messenger app. So I’d say it is more an issue of expectation and motivation, rather than actual ability.

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2 points

I still get the occasional message that takes hours to deliver. I don’t trust it to always be reliable.

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24 points

What’s enshitty about this?

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31 points

Nothing, OP just wanted an excuse to use the buzzword of current year

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-11 points

No, this is absolutely how it begins

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0 points

Have sex

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Monetizing the app

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15 points

I’m not seeing anything about monetization in this article, could you be more specific?

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If you log into the app, you’ll see promoted content from celebrities and organizations. What do you think drives those promotions?

It’s either direct paid promotion, user data being sold to ad firms, or a combination.

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