So, until recently, I have been using https://github.com/rimu/no-qanon/blob/master/hosts.txt

However, as some issues that I have opened have shown, there are a bunch of left wing and progressive sites on this list ( https://github.com/rimu/no-qanon/issues ). I no longer think that it is trustworthy. Especially after reading some of the repo owners replies. Intentionally added was t.me which is a generic url for any telegram group. Discordapp.com was on it at one point.

Oy Vey. It’s clear to me that the owner of this repo is not actually spending much time actually curating this list and instead it’s just a shotgun approach. Does anyone know of a good alternative?

8 points

To be fair, last I checked, commondreams was so far to the left, they fell right off the flat earth. I consider myself pretty progressive and a lot of the stuff I saw from that site made me roll my eyes and go “this is where people get those crazy ideas about progressives having crazy ideas!”

Anyways, it’s been a few years since I paid any attention to them so maybe they’re not so cringe anymore.

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sorry for the potentially dumb remark but… couldn’t you just avoid navigating to QAnon websites? I’ve never had an issue unintentionally navigating to one. It also seems like this repo owner is quite opinionated and trying to create a “no bad sites” filter list, which… honestly, you can control your own destiny with web browsing.

if this is to protect kids on your network, I think it’s probably a good idea to have a broader conversation with them about evaluating sources, tell them about media bias checking sites, and just generally educating them on red flags to distrust. This will probably serve them much better than trying to block right wing sites, especially since plenty of normal websites have harmful right wing content. YouTube in particular disseminates extremely misleading and harmful material via ads (lots of anti-trans hate speech).

In any case, I can’t find another repo - if you need the filter still, maybe you could fork the list yourself, and remove anything that you don’t find objectionable? (again, I feel like this is an example of why to not rely on a third party to block websites based off opinion/politics)

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if this is to protect kids on your network

Sadly, I suspect this is to protect adults on the network…

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I mean, that would be kinda crazy, and I also don’t think it would do any good to try and filter them. Like, you’ve got conspiracy-driven right wingers under your domain - no matter what way you spin it, you’re dealing with shitty people. You’re either going to bring them to a fever pitch in an argument over you blocking their internet access, or you’re going to give them access and have to deal with them perpetuating their harmful views to you and all around them.

If you’re at that point, better to consider whether or not you really want those people in your lives.

If you’re in a situation where you can’t cut those people off, what do you expect to achieve other than a different form of conflict by inhibiting their internet access? If you’re going to be quiet about doing it and hope they don’t understand, is it really healthy to be pulling those strings and manipulating like that? Hell, I’m not even sure it would be ethical, I feel like that kind of manipulation would be really shitty to do, even to shitty people and their shitty views.

EDIT: I’m of course assuming the adults need “protection” because there’s no path to just, like, discussing things healthily. If there’s a healthy way to discuss… that should really be the preference.

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Mm dunno if you ever read the qanon casualties posts on Reddit. There’s no discussing or reasoning with the people who have fallen prey to believing this shit. And if often leads to financial ruin. Blocking access to those sites is, for many, like taking the car keys away from an elderly parent who will only hurt themselves and others if you don’t intervene.

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I don’t think I have an iron in this fire, but I do think that filtering some crap out of a gullible person’s Internet feed is way kinder and way healthier than cutting them out of your life completely.

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Easily conned elderly parents with poor internet savvy are a thing. They get manipulated out of their life savings too often. Keeping them from being linked to conspiracy sites they otherwise may not encounter on purpose probably isn’t a bad thing.

Just an example.

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Regarding your third paragraph, it’s been shown (anecdotally at least) that blocking access to these kinds of sites and fox news does a lot in bringing older, easily manipulated people out of the q anon rabbit hole. It’s difficult at first, but with nothing feeding the conspiracy, they go back to normal eventually.

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If that’s the case foxnews would like cut out most of the challenge. I’m not old enough to have adult children yet but I still have a hard time grasping news channels are entertainment venues.

News used to be actual news done by reporters. It had credibility and a degree of respect. This shift has been near impossible for my parents generation

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If you’re doing this in a business environment, I wouldn’t fool around with a home rolled option and would just go straight with a Websense subscription:

https://www.websense.com/content/support/library/deployctr/v76/dic_wcg.aspx

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I use that list as well as the ones at https://github.com/antifa-n/pihole/ (though they haven’t been updated in years). I also use OpenDNS upstream to block their “Hate/Discrimination” category (among others).

I’ve been pretty happy with this setup, but I would welcome alternatives/additional blocklists.

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The issues you raised about those sites were fixed within two hours.

https://github.com/rimu/no-qanon/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aclosed

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Those were just the ones I found. There are likely many, many more. The sites I found are not even small publications either. Commondreams, rawstory, dailykos? Those are some very recognizable sites. if big ones like that slipped through, then that tells me that there is zero effort going into vetting the list.

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By all means, put some effort in. Please.

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Perhaps the curator is running a red herring with the intention or blocking liberal media?

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I highly doubt it tbh, but the thought did cross my mind.

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