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Cool. I don’t give a shit about Capitalist labels in the first place. Buy the meat for taste and quality. Grass Fed or even better, locally sourced, is all you need.

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Actually you don’t need to murder animals for food at all! It’s amazing we can have this knowledge in our time on earth

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Sure, if you want to develop a choline deficiency, otherwise enjoy your 2.5 cups of chickpeas for your RDI.

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choline deficiency

heard of cauliflower and brocolli my bro?

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The impact of beef is still gigantic compared to other food sources, even if it’s local or grass fed.

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33 points

Still, the most climate friendly meat are vegan alternatives.

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I’ve got this weird disease where my body can’t process fruits or veg, only meat, rice, pasta, and dairy.

I’m so excited for sustainable, lab-grown meat, I can’t even tell you. Living on rice and pasta alone sucks (even with dietary supplements), so I can’t ditch animal products.

They keep promising it, but every related headline is this bullshit. Hey corporate meat scientists: stop trying to make animal farming a thing in the future and start growing cloned steaks, please.

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I’m vegan, and I hope lab grown gets so cheap for people like you that just want to taste some meat without the suffering. I may want to tray it form time to time, I’m not even half done exploring the recipes of the world.

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It would be so great. We could even have delicacies that are super unethical now, all cloned from a totally uninvasive cell sample that the host animal doesn’t even notice. I’d probably even try Soylent Green if it was sustainable and uninvasive (lol).

We could even make new meats or clone extinct animal tissues. I’d absolutely try mammoth steak. If we have the technology (I think we do), we could even bring back extinct species of plants. I’d love to taste the banana we ate to extinction like 500 years ago that apparently tasted better than any banana alive today.

I get desperate cravings for shellfish after a while without non-legume proteins. Worldwide shellfish capture practices are abhorrent. Clone me shellfish and I’ll be happy forever.

e: sorry, I can’t eat much and I miss food. I got a bit triggered there and went off. Apologies for tmi.

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Yep, and for a source to back that up:

If I source my beef or lamb from low-impact producers, could they have a lower footprint than plant-based alternatives? The evidence suggests, no: plant-based foods emit fewer greenhouse gases than meat and dairy, regardless of how they are produced.

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Plant-based protein sources – tofu, beans, peas and nuts – have the lowest carbon footprint. This is certainly true when you compare average emissions. But it’s still true when you compare the extremes: there’s not much overlap in emissions between the worst producers of plant proteins, and the best producers of meat and dairy.

https://ourworldindata.org/less-meat-or-sustainable-meat

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Is this that thing where the ranchers feed their cows some percentage of died seaweed to cut down on the methane emissions?

Because that’s a thing.

It’s better for the climate than not doing that, but still not as good as, you know, actually looking at overall beef production with a critical eye and maybe cutting back a bit.

This video spills the secrets of how to make believable chicken (and beef) flavors from plant products. We’ve known how to do this since the 60s.

We could replace all ground meat with plant products and the only thing missing would be the texture, and companies are actively working on that.

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Feed additives are not mentioned in the article, but it’s also worth noting how greatly misleading the claims you see about those are

What’s more, feeding cattle algae is really only practical where it’s least needed: on feedlots. This is where most cattle are crowded in the final months of their 1.5- to 2-year lives to rapidly put on weight before slaughter. There, algae feed additives can be churned into the cows’ grain and soy feed. But on feedlots, cattle already belch less methane—only 11 percent of their lifetime output

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Unfortunately, adding the algae to diets on the pasture, where it’s most needed, isn’t a feasible option either. Out on grazing lands, it’s difficult to get cows to eat additives because they don’t like the taste of red algae unless it’s diluted into feed. And even if we did find ways to sneak algae in somehow, there’s a good chance their gut microbes would adapt and adjust, bringing their belches’ methane right back to high levels.

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All told, if we accept the most promising claims of the algae boosters, we’re talking about an 80 percent reduction of methane among only 11 percent of all burps—roughly an 8.8 percent reduction total

https://www.wired.com/story/carbon-neutral-cows-algae/

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Youtube has been going wild with the greenwashing, I keep getting ads for shit like this it’s insufferable.

We use renewable- We’re working towards- With your help we can save the envi- Our beef is- shut uuupppp

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to be supported with taxpayer dollars

Taxpayer funded factory farms? Why would anyone want their tax dollars going to a universally cruel industry, or to a company caught doing horrific things time and time again?

How about we subsidize more plant-based products? Make it more affordable and accessible, and this pesky beef problem will simply go away.

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Unfortunately these factory farms already receive large subsidies in the US

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Ah yes, socialism for corporations and for us peons, go fuck yourself-ism.

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