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Where’s the funny?

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the cynical side of me liked it. ofc that may not be your kind of humor

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There isn’t any. Just the typical 14 year olds railing on about the same ten commie phrases as if it was ever funny. Looking forward to more diverse meme communities coming to Lemmy so I can block the communist stupid.

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Hehe basing actual society on media representation of the extremes lol

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Actually, now that I think about it, has there even been a piece of media showing a utopia as capitalist? All the genuine utopias I can think of are usually at least socialist leaning. I say genuine cause there’s also a huge number of works about “utopias” where the whole plot is about how the society isn’t actually a utopia.

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that’s because a capitalist Utopia is in no way realistic (and acutally self-contradictory). The only future Capitalism offers is a dystopian one (if we even get to have a future, which is not all that likely under current circumstances)

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I think the closest we might would be a mixed economy utopia, where capitalism co-exists with things like workers rights and whatnot. Its probably difficult to write a believeable capalist utopia because it requires that the people at the top are all saints.

Although, with the advances in AI, maybe someone could write a story about some megacorp AI meeting everybody’s needs. It might be an interesting writing experiment.

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Although, with the advances in AI, maybe someone could write a story about some megacorp AI meeting everybody’s needs. It might be an interesting writing experiment.

You mean like iRobot?

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Tbh I haven’t read it. I instead saw the will smith movie that has almost nothing to do with the book.

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I think the word you’re looking for in reference to a utopia not being a utopia is “dystopia”.

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There has to be one, but i think most sci-fi authors are left-leaning so their utopias and dystopias both reflect that.

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I think you’re, uh, pretty super wrong about sci-fi authors being leftists. Maybe the modern ones, but historically they’ve been pretty right wing.

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You’ve got a point there… Robert Heinlein’s books were so fashy that Verhoeven decided the only way Starship Troopers could be turned into a film was if it was done as satire.

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Both scenarios could actually happen at the same time

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I just want to point out that starfleet actively oppresses certain groups of people (genetically modified races usually), ignores the needs of their border worlds while simultaneously demanding they adhere to federation laws, and their entire legal system is broken. A judge forced Riker to prosecute Data despite the obvious personal connections.

Star Trek is not as much of a socialist utopia as people like to pretend it is. Its definitely a more liberal society, but equality is not a given.

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I haven’t watched all of the new trek but I feel like they were slowly turning around the anti GMO stuff with Bashir. They highlighted the absurdity of leaving a child permanently disabled when he could become a doctor instead.

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New trek tries to do something similar, at least in Strange New Worlds anyways. Theres a whole courtroom episode regarding a certain member of the enterprise. Its a pretty new episode so I won’t spoil anything for people. Anyways, theres more than 100 years between the two shows and basically nothing has changed.

Bashir got an exception provided his father spend time in prison. I wouldn’t call that a particularly major win, but thats just me.

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Its a show though. The reason Riker prosecuted Data was because of the tension created by their friendship. Rikers deliverance in that episode still gives me chills it was so good. Don’t take the episodes as a 1:1 what it would actually be like. Thats why Strange New Worlds had a separate captain but they still chose to create relationship tension there, too. Because its interesting to watch.

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I think it depicts a communist future quite well actually. Errors can and always will be made, Administration will always have to be done, it’s just how do we go about those things once we achive a communist society? Proper Star Trek explores those questions and ofc the show in it of itself isn’t flawless either

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Mad Max is just a documentary of the Australian outback

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