but i use ddg btw

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This + ChatGPT

Edit: IDK why I exactly got the dislikes, but I can assure you that I was able to quickly get into Python 3 thanks to ChatGPT’s help. I didn’t even know what was a Python class when I started and now the most complex (yet still shitty) script that I have is full of them.

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Imagine graduating in medecine and your employer respects you to be an expert at everything all at once that is related to the human body and being able to perform open heart and brain surgery and doing x-ray imaging and MRIs and being a gynecologist and an an optometrist and a pharmacist all at once.

That’s what being in IT is like. You’re expected to know how to program microcontrollers to mainframes to fucking VCRs and knowing every programming language ever created since electronic computers exist as well as networking and cloud technology and databases, etc. AND you have to be certified in all these things to prove you know them on top of your degree.

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You’re expected to know how to program microcontrollers to mainframes to fucking VCRs and knowing every programming language ever created since electronic computers exist as well as networking and cloud technology and databases, etc. AND you have to be certified in all these things to prove you know them on top of your degree.

So there’s a problem even worse than this: When you have all those skills and more (I do 👍) employers expect to pay you the salary of someone who knows just one of those things.

Like, I was a professional hacker, a systems administrator (both Unix/Linux and Windows), I know networking, have administered/maintained databases, I’m also an award-winning web developer (I know the usual web stuff plus Python, Rust, and a few other things), an embedded developer (C, C++, and Rust), and I can even engineer, design, and program an entire product from scratch that didn’t exist before (see: https://youtu.be/iv6Rh8UNWlI?si=dG15yQlQpfNGCDal ). That includes designing/engineering the circuit board.

Do I get paid for knowing all these things? No. If I apply for any job you know what employers say when they reject me?

Overqualified

You’re damned if you do and you’re damned if you don’t!

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Sick keyboard!!!

At the point you’re at with all your skills, have you thought of starting your own company? No employer will know how to use your talents as well as you do.

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Hey, I saw the stellar review of your keyboard, is it possible to buy somewhere?

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You dumb down your resume. Leave a bunch of that shit off. Only put what applies for the job you are looking for.

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Yeah, that’ll get me the job but it’ll still have the same problem: Only getting paid to have knowledge of just one thing.

Companies don’t hire generalists that can get a lot of different work done. They hire specialists that are like cogs in a machine. That way they’re much easier to replace and a lot cheaper too.

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And vaginas, and MRI machines, and hearts change dramatically every couple of years. Plus the human body grows new organs and limbs every few months and you’re expected to immediately have 5 years experience with these new organs and limbs that have only existed for 2 months. Perfectly healthy suddenly people fall unconscious for no reason, despite all of their organs operating perfectly. When you check your human body documentation you discover that the lungs no longer work as of today, and you now need to use the sclurtleplussy instead. You have no idea what a sclurtleplussy, but you better figure it out immediately, or all these patients will die.

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Why do programmers complain about expectations all the time? Just say “It needs more time” or “that’s not possible unless we change a lot of things”. Set the expectations, don’t accept them. You’re the expert. What are they gonna do? Do it themselves?

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LoL you haven’t worked in a company as a software developer and it shows.

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If they have inconvenient expectations, simply tell them to not have those! If your boss pushes back, just tell them in a calm but assertive tone that you tell them how things are gonna go, not the other way around.

I don’t understand why more people who have not been fired don’t do this.

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It’s not that things aren’t possible, it’s that there’s always more, and often better, options to pick from. Going back to medicine, it’s like surgeons have to learn new techniques, but with the difference there there isn’t anywhere near the same degree of specialization.

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Well first, the big problem is they make promises based off of the estimates we give them, which they then cut down and over promise. It’s a careful dance between giving yourself the padding you need for if something goes wrong, and not letting them think they can cut down on that necessary padding if they find out you didn’t use it.

For us, we under promise and over deliver… Sales over promise, and project managers bid as low as they can to win contracts, and panic when the numbers aren’t working because they cut it too close or didn’t push back/renegotiate scope creep

So then, when the numbers don’t work and their boss tells them to fix it, they go to their team and tell them to make it work. And the only thing they can do is set meetings, make demands, and yell… Sure, you can tell them to go fuck themselves, but at that point you all look bad - if the technical and functional chains of command aren’t separated (more common), they just point at you as the problem to whoever signs your paychecks… Since talking to that person is part of their week and you’re busy working, that’s probably not a fight you’ll win.

If they’re any good, they do exactly what you said - they come over, say “hey, I’ve got this problem… This guy wants this, what will it do to our timeline?” And, by being proactive and trusting the experts, they can just go back to the customer and say “sorry, we went over the numbers and it blows out the budget, these are our options based on my expert and the contract vehicle”

Unfortunately, most people aren’t that good at their jobs. A lot of project managers have an ego and like to do handshake deals… once they start agreeing to things on their own, they put the whole team in a no-win situation

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We do set the expectations as best as we can, but the people who have these expectations really don’t like that - to some, it’s like we’re offending them, and to many others, there’s almost always some other developer they either know or heard about (they never do, in fact) that, allegedly, can do whatever we’re being asked, but 10x cheaper and 100x faster, and he’s also at a lower expertise level so we should be happy to have the job in the first place, oh and also update the documentation in 4 seconds in a way that doesn’t take away these 4 seconds from the “main work”.

Many of us love their job, or at least are very grateful to be able to have it, but we complain for the same reasons other people complain - ridiculous and/or hilarious clients, colleagues, and employers.

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I tried looking up some alternatives. You know, searching the web. I even checked online, but I couldn’t find anything.

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…yes they are, lol.

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I don’t have any problem using those. A lot of times, your can just say “search”, and people will know it’s a web search because it’s implied.

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Somebody told me a story once about how they went to a doctor in Sweden. They told him their symptoms and the dude started googling them.

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My doc is also googling stuff very often.

Probably not bad. If I could have memorized the entire dotnet framework documentation, I would. Until then I will keep googling, and I will usually recognize if the solution is sound. Probably the same with doctors and health.

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Agreed, I’m simply pointing out that the comic makes it seem like programming is something you can always just Google the answers for, instead of a skill that requires honing and a basal foundation, similar to medical science or law.

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I would love to have a doc who googles instead of just trying to sound smart based on their limited knowledge

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You try memorising every known disease and alment in history.

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And you try memorizing every Python library

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It takes a while to get through the entire standard library but PyMOTW makes it fun and keeps things interesting 👍

(Yes, I’ve read every single one and if I can do it you can too)

https://pymotw.com/3/

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Happened to me once so I guess it’s not as weird as I thought.

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Doctors

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Lol

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You still need doctors, because Dr Google just thinks everyone has cancer.

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Every fucking time. “Cancer or an autoimmune disease.”

See a doctor: Oh, it’s a pinched nerve / sprain / hemorrhoid.

Fuck Google.

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how the hell did you make this username ?

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“Just because my medical school was in the Cayman islands doesn’t mean I’m not a real doctor.”

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