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Is being labelled a Nazi in 2023 when one doesn’t identify with the Nazi party or it’s ideologies similar to dead-naming people who have changed their names?

In reference to the Yaroslav Hunka, who fought for Nazi Germany in WW2, then fought for Ukrainian independence afterwards. Canada recently had him in House of Commons to pay respect for Ukraine, which caused an uproar.

On one hand, a man fought for an evil power. Wether he had choice in that participation is up for debate. Does it make a difference what actions he took for the rest of his life or should he always be labelled a Nazi? Is he more of a Nazi than skin head, swastika tattoos nazis of today? I guess the question is, is it fair to judge someone this way? Looking for your thoughts.

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Sure I often say the best year of my life was 1943, when I was in the SS, but that’s in the past that I fondly look back to in my old age.

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(I will need to find the article again, but the nazi literally said at some point in a blog post in like 2010 that 1943 was his favorite year of his life.)

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Yes. These recent r*dditor moments have been some of the most filthy. The dunk tank investigators are uncovering the most unspeakable horrors.

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The goalposts have been moved so far for libs that you have to identify with the actual nazi party from the 1940s to be considered a nazi.

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you have to identify with the actual nazi party from the 1940s

about that… https://hexbear.net/comment/4008831

but it doesn’t matter, they’ll still defend nazi shit if it’s convenient for america

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Every time I think I’ve found rock bottom for my expectations, finds a way to keep digging deeper.

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The EU imposed sanctions on Austria in 2000 for having the far-right FPÖ join the government coalition.

Nowadays “no the USSR was absolutely more evil than Nazi Germany” is a mainstream position.

I love bourgeois states in the absence of a Socialist state making them shit themselves out of fear of revolution and even reform.

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Eveything else is just sparkling fascism

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I can’t stand these spineless users. What do you mean “does it make a difference what actions he took for the rest of his life”? What actions? What redemption are you talking about?

They’re obviously just working backward from the conclusion that if their favorite politicians honored this Nazi, surely that means he’s been redeemed because the alternative is unthinkable.

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This is what the pseudo-left does with Beau of The Fifth Column when you point out how atrocious his human trafficking and the associated exploitation was.

They’re like “Yeah, but he did his time (he didn’t btw) and he’s done so much for the left since then (he hasn’t btw). I believe that everyone should have a chance at rehabilitation.

And then you press them on it and ask them in what ways he engaged in genuine rehabilitation, if they believe that the current carceral system delivers said rehabilitation, and you ask how how much remorse he has shown for his crimes and especially what sort of restorative justice he has engaged in either for direct restitution to his victims or at the very least in restorative justice for victims of human trafficking more broadly.

… it’s always the same when you do this because all you get in response is crickets chirping.

It’s like they’ve never connected their ideas about prison abolition to the fact that this means rehabilitation doesn’t come from a US prison to the fact that there’s no mechanism for restitution for most victims of crime currently in the US to the fact that restorative justice can take place right now beyond what a US court mandates.

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The redemption arc is a darling trope for libs. That want so badly to not think of their racist relatives as bad people. Or they just want to justify their secret love for fascism by saying they actually only like the ones who are good deep down.

They don’t know the only good nazi is a dead nazi.

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I-i-s there anyway to make myself feel better for defending a Nazi?

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No. You shall now be cast into the r*dditor torment dungeon for 37 years.

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It’s very cruel to send them to lemmy.world

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