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There’s a distinction between war and terrorism. Terrorism is done by non state actors, wars are done by states. For example, there’s a very big difference between the democratic government of the Philippines voting to fight ISIS in their southern islands, and some random ISIS terrorist trying to kill the Filipino president to intimidate non muslim candidates from running for president.

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You could say the same exact thing about AIPAC. It’s also a membership-led and membership-funded organization where the vast majority of it’s funding coming from private donations… yet somehow I don’t think you’ll have the same reaction to them being foreign assets. The reality is that both of these organizations advance the interests of foreign governments over America’s, only difference is that Israel is a US ally and the countries that the DSA chooses to align itself with are American adversaries.

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You can go read my comment to guy you’re replying to see that you are indeed wrong.

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This is taken directly from their official statement letter:

DSA reaffirms our call for the US to withdraw from NATO and to end the imperialist expansionism that set the stage for this conflict.

https://www.dsausa.org/statements/on-russias-invasion-of-ukraine/

This is from official “condemnation” on Feb 26, 2022. Their condemnation just comes off as tone deaf when they say shit like this, especially right after the invasion. How tone deaf, but they double down on the Russian propaganda fueled stance:

The war in Ukraine is a disaster for working class people in Ukraine, the region, and a terrible threat to us all, including increasing the danger of nuclear war and exacerbating global economic crises. We oppose the Russian invasion and call for the withdrawal of Russian troops through a settled ceasefire agreement. We recognize that the expansion of NATO and the aggressive approach of Western nations have helped cause the crisis and we demand an end to NATO expansion. We also oppose US and NATO military interventionism and the tens of billions in military aid and weapons shipments which only further exacerbates the war and undermine a negotiated settlement, as well as sanctions that will harm ordinary Russians. We call on the US and other countries to welcome refugees fleeing the war and provide needed humanitarian aid.

https://international.dsausa.org/ukraine/

And again:

https://www.dsausa.org/democratic-left/dsa-and-the-war-in-ukraine-toward-a-mass-socialist-anti-war-movement/

There seems to be a common theme going on. They “condemn” the invasion, but blame the US and NATO for it, push for negotiations that Putin wants, and try to justify Russia’s reasons for invading. Now, when Ukraine itself is against these narratives… who exactly is pushing them? Who is benefiting from this propaganda and misinformation? Oh that’s right, it’s Russia… which the DSA just happens to conveniently align with.

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Right, my ultimate goal is for the fascists to be defeat and disappear and for the far left to disappear with them. Until then, I have a moral obligation to call out far left extremism when I see it and call out any attempts that try to sabotage Trump’s defeat in November… like what the DSA is trying to do here.

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Let me ask you this, why can’t we regulate capitalism to work for us? Just think of what we can do:

  • Greatly expand and enforce strong environmental regulations
  • Expand and enforce anti trust laws to break monopolies
  • Improve working conditions
  • Remove money from politics
  • Ban lobbying
  • Increase the minimum wage to something livable and tie it to inflation
  • Improve the justice system to hold CEOs and other big executives accountable for any crimes they commit and punish them accordingly
  • Tie worker wages to CEO salaries or company revenue
  • Fix all the tax loopholes and have corporations and billionaires pay their fair share
  • Improve the social safety net so people can have their basic needs met
  • Expand regulations to protect consumers
  • Expand regulations for price gouging and enforce them
  • Update our outdated zoning laws to allow for the building of more houses
  • Remove the shitty regulations that prevent public transport from being built
  • Ban any attempts to equate corporations with people
  • Implement ranked choice voting and get rid of first past the vote
  • Change the way we measure the health of the economy from GDP and stock market trends to things like median income, life expectancy, levels of happiness, mental and physical health, childhood success rate, rates of substance abuse, crime rates, social mobility, and so on
  • Incentivize companies and people that do more to help their communities and punish those that actively harm them

These are not radical ideas and they’re not new, these are all already in place in capitalist societies all around the world. We know they work and we know capitalism works, so why not make it better? Capitalism doesn’t have to be this dystopian reality where corporations own everything and everybody else lives in poverty struggling to make ends meet. It could also be this great system that is centered around humanity and works to the benefit of the people. A system where the value of a person matters more than a dollar amount. These ideas aren’t antithetical to capitalism. Capitalism is just tool, it’s a flexible one too, there’s nothing stopping us from shaping it to serve us and our values. Why not pursue that instead of trying to pursue some an ideology that has literally failed? After so many attempts, so many failures, so many people killed, when is it time to move on? Marxist socialism isn’t the way forward, it’s a way of the past.

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What truth is buried? You just sound mad because I openly criticize the far left for how shitty they are since you are probably one.

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Marxists: “Here is misinformation to justify destroying Israel and implement a failed tyrannical ideology that killed tens of million of people”

Normal people: “No, can criticize and condemn the actions of the Israeli government while also acknowledging reality and working for a resolution where both Israelis and Palestinians get to coexist peacefully. We can also criticize our economic system and call for actions to improve it with stronger regulations”

You: “What are you? A boomer?”

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You are quite literally a genocide supporter. You support Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. I remember you from that other post about Ukraine where you were all of over the thread simping for Putin, blaming the US for the invasion, and calling the 2014 revolution in Ukraine a US orchestrated coup. You’re in no position to call out fascists when you’re one yourself.

For anybody who’s curious, I highly recommend you read his comments on that read. This guy is nuts. Here is the link:

https://lemmy.world/comment/11122109

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