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gastationsushi

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Are you a Biden supporter who is also defending the legal opinions of the conservative supreme court? You might need to step away from politics.

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Just look up the law the Biden administration cited in his original debt relief and his response to SCOTUS.

Why would you argue with someone online about student debt forgiveness when you don’t even know basics like the law Biden cited.

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  1. The ruling is extremely specific, it doesn’t ban all forgiveness
  2. Biden is doing forgiveness right now and no one says that’s illegal
  3. He can do more forgiveness, I don’t get what your hangup is. SCOTUS is not his master.
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As I said before, congress passed a law that allowed presidents to forgive debt, are you saying congress didn’t support that?

Go read Biden’s own citations, on where he gets power if you are interested.

Stop ignoring SCOTUS, where did they get their power, it certainly wasn’t our constitution. You are out here with a white glove looking for faults in everything but the Roberts court. The most corrupt court we’ve had in my lifetime.

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What are you saying? Biden himself says the ruling is wrong and will do any means possible to forgive student debt. He’s doing that on a minor scale, he can by his own account, do it at a larger scale.

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If you believe forgiving the debt 100k students here and there is reform, then we are in disagreement.

I think over 100 million student debt holders will need some type of debt forgiveness to actually reform things. That why I push for broad forgiveness.

And yes Biden can! It’s his administration and admins forgive debt all the time. We are so many liberals in this thread defending SCOTUS?

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When the trifecta of the president, congress, and the voters all disagree with the courts, why can’t they act against them? And who exactly can act against SCOTUS?

No liberal or progressive should spend time defending this deeply undemocratic judicial branch.

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Funny you bring up a king. Biden is empowered by congress to forgive debt, people broadly support student debt relief. How is forgiving debt acting like a king in this circumstance?

I think you are confusing the actions of the unelected SCOTUS who routinely takes actions against the will of the people. If Biden wants to stop unilateral actions, he literally needs to fight against this far right SCOTUS.

Why are you arguing about student debt relief if you don’t know the law that empowers POTUS? It’s cited by Biden himself, but you can google yourself, you might learn something.

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Do you want debt reform or not?

Congress empowered the president to forgive debt. The courts ignored standing rules to even take that case and SCOTUS has no power to overrule both congress and the president.

President’s have ignored SCOTUS before but Biden doesn’t even have to do that. He can forgive debt like he’s doing now but do it broadly and instantaneously.

If SCOTUS later rules against that broad forgiveness, there’s nothing administratively they can do. No politician D or R would reinstate $.5 trillion in voter debt just to appease the unelected SCOTUS. You can’t put that genie back in the bottle.

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The president is the most powerful person in this country. He is explicitly empowered by Congress to forgive student debt. The only actor here that is limited in power is our SCOTUS who constantly over step their bounds, make up judicial theory out of whole cloth, or ignore their own rules.

How come I never hear the experts say they are limited power in these executive vs judicial debates?

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