The president has been going after his presumptive 2024 opponent with a little more venom than usual
Joe Biden is taking it to Donald Trump.
The president’s campaign responded to Trump’s wild press conference in New York on Monday by slamming the former president as “weak and desperate — both as a man and a candidate for President.”
“He spent the weekend golfing, the morning comparing himself to Jesus, and the afternoon lying about having money he definitely doesn’t have,” the statement read, adding that “America deserves better than a feeble, confused, and tired Donald Trump.”
“America deserves better than a feeble, confused, and tired Donald Trump.”
Definitely true.
But America also deserves someone better than Biden.
We have two shit tier options, and no matter who wins, America loses.
Yeah totally agree. Biden is the least bad as an outsider, but he’s still a shit candidate and the fact the Democrats chose him shows how weak and poorly run they are as a party.
Biden is the least bad option in a 2 man race but fundamentally US democracy is broken and rotten to its core.
The fact polls show it neck and neck at this stage, given trumps legal woes and his attempt to overthrow the last election result, bodes very badly.
How do you have so much time to spend on this website trying to convince people not to vote? How does someone so passionately stand for absolutely nothing? I’ve seen these same posts from you over and over and over again, yet you never actually have anything to say besides ‘both sides bad, don’t vote.’
If you have a better option, I’d love to hear it. But if not, maybe shut the fuck up and quit turfing for Trump.
Maybe I’m just old enough to realize the last 30 years of DNC strategy has been completely devoid of logic, and just results in the Dem party getting more and more conservative every cycle.
Maybe I’ve realized that as long as progressives vote for the lesser of two evils, the DNC will only ever compromise for “moderates” who wants the party to be more conservative.
I’ve spent 20 years voting D for president, only once did I get to vote for someone I liked at the time.
Maybe nows the time to do the only thing the DNC cares about. Loudly refuse to vote for them until they give me what I want. Because that works with the DNC, they’re constantly saying they need to be more conservative to steal votes from Republicans, and that they don’t have to ever move left because there’s no better option.
Because after 20 years, “voting blue no matter who” has only lead to a slow march of elderly conservative candidates who won’t push for the party platform even when they have the House and Senate.
I used to say “the primary is the real election” but that’s not true anymore, the DNC just doesn’t give a fuck about the democratic base anymore.
What’s your grand plan? Keep doing what we’ve been doing for decades and hope the result is magically different?
The end game of the lib’s “harm reduction” is to continue taking shots to the left 30 years from now when the presidential candidates are a choice between the dem who wants to do 5 genocides and the repub who wants to do 10 genocides. At that point, the metamorphosis from liberal to fascist will be complete. To the liberal mind, political analysis stops with the earth-shattering revelation that 5 < 10.
They’ve been anchor biased hard as fuck, and they will continue to prop up genocide across the third world and beyond such that they never have to question their precious governmental systems and bureaucracy. The ecocidal, genocidal, imperialist political project that is the United States (which was devised a blink ago by 30-year old white slavers) is far more precious to liberals than, you know, halting genocide.
Loudly refuse to vote for them until they give me what I want.
Might be slightly more effective to draw a frowny face in poop on your front door to express your political discontent ;)
What a disgusting comment. Obviously they’re passionate about not supporting a genocide. Can you fucking read?
Passionate about not supporting genocide, but is willing to let Trump back in the White House, thus propagating the genocide.
‘Not supporting a genocide’ is not a candidate running for election.
Nobody here wants to support genocide. It’s not brave statement, it’s fucking common sense. But the options are ‘a guy who’s weakly attempting to deescalate things’ and ‘hurry up and finish your genocide already’. If you truly don’t want to support genocide, there’s a clear pick.
Look, let’s get this out of the way. I’m not a Democrat. Didn’t vote for Biden or Trump at any point. Yet comparing them one is clearly capable and one is not. How does that make them equal? That’s delusional thinking.
Do I want a better candidate than either of them? Sure, but it’s not going to happen this election cycle. And yes it’s fucked these are the only choices we get.
Yet which one is really likely to fuck us over? The answer to that isn’t Biden. Not by a longshot.
The problem with this is that we have history with both of them, and we can see what they did. I am not going to vote for either of them, but biden has been objectively an incompetent president, probably the worst president in the modern era outside of Bush.
so between eating a shit sandwich or being driven off a cliff and potentially dying, you’d chose death? honestly the dumbest take I’ve heard in a while. thanks for the laugh, I guess 🤡
How does that make them equal?
No one said it was.
If you can vote for a president who not only went around Congress to fund a genocide, but also went around Congress to prevent aid to the victims…
That’s your decision that you will have to live with
Maybe that’s not a big deal for you. Maybe it’s harder on me because I’m a third generation disabled veteran.
But everyone has a line. I truly help the DNC gets better before your line is crossed.
I hope you do understand that Trump isn’t any better in this regard - he isn’t just going to continue funding Israel like Biden currently is, he’s already expressed his full support of Netanyahu’s genocidal actions and will seek to help him further.
You can choose not to vote, but understand that if enough people come in with that same attitude, Trump will win, because his supporters don’t care what his policies on Israel are, they just want him to win.
Dude, your choice is between an insurrectionist fraud who is almost certainly a Russian asset and a moderate.
While Biden may not be the perfect candidate, the choice of who to vote for isn’t difficult.
Yeah, but I’m in of the more than 50% of states Biden has zero chance of winning.
The only time my state has went D in recent history was when a young progressive outsider won the Dem primary. And in the 16 years since the DNC has taken a lot of steps to ensure that never happens again.
Most recently taking NH’s delegates away.
If the DNC wants to win my state, they’re going to have to stop running neoliberals, regardless of how I personally vote.
But the DNC doesn’t want to win if it means a progressive candidate.
So you can blame one random voter for having morals, or you can blame the DNC for not giving voters what they want for easy wins.
What do you think is more productive?
People reading along here should note this person is trying to turn blue states purple, they admit it with their own words, and they are appealing to morality to lure suckers in.
As if nobody but them is a moral person
Bullshit.
But a lot of us have religious triggers planted deep, yeah? That if you toddle along with the person claiming they are of virtue, maybe you’ll be a good person too?
Anyway.
Vote like your hair is on fire, because if assholes like this fine upstanding “moral” person has their say and causes blue voters to stay home, we’re gonna be fucked, just as we were before. They’re trying the same tactic that worked before even to give us Trump. And why wouldn’t they? It worked.
No state is “safe” from flipping.
Also note that playing with voting demographics is why a lot of the anti-abortion laws are being pushed…to cleanse purple states of blue voters by driving them out. So when you see anyone encouraging you not to vote because a state is safe, understand it’s part of an effort to flip states from blue or purple to red.
So you can blame one random voter for having morals, or you can blame the DNC for not giving voters what they want for easy wins.
i can blame both simultaneously
if we end up with a fascist president, it is both
Cut the both-sides shit. Trump is a convicted sex criminal and fraud who wants to end democracy. There is objectively a better choice between the two.
What is it with all the people who can’t understand that better doesn’t mean good?
Trump isnt a convicted sex criminal… and the other guy has some serious sexual allegations too, outside of being creepy around kids
He was found liable for sexual abuse in NY civil court and fined $5 million for it.
The judge made it very clear Trump is a rapist, saying:
“The finding that Ms. Carroll failed to prove that she was ‘raped’ within the meaning of the New York Penal Law does not mean that she failed to prove that Mr. Trump ‘raped’ her as many people commonly understand the word ‘rape,’ ”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-carroll-judge-rape/
Biden has never been charged in civil or criminal court for any sexual impropriety. It is simply a lie that there are any serious sexual allegations against him.
the only valid both sides is they are both way too old for the job. 1 old guy will give you the chance to vote for someone else in 4 years, the other will not. 1 guy has a record, tho spotty, looking out for your middle class, the other …
The comment seems more intended to push voters away from Biden and toward an RFK option than convincing anyone to vote for Trump. It’s stupid and easy to attack back, but we also need to be careful about what the strategy is.
It’s not both-sides to say that Genocide Joe sucks ass. Yes, Trump is worse. But Biden is still awful. I don’t say that in some effort to appease the right or sound somehow neutral, I say it because it’s true.
Ah yes, someone who enables genocide by continuing existing funding practices is totally deserving of that specific nickname while the other guy who has repeatedly said he would literally do what Israel is doing and that Israel should ‘finish the job’ doesn’t get a pithy nickname.
Nah, you say it to sap unity and make people stay home from voting.
Your vibe is the same as the girls who say they bluntly “tell it as they see it” in their dating profile, but anyone with any relationship experience knows that means they’re completely willing to make things toxic as fuck because they’ll just vomit their selfish so called truth anywhere without caring about consequences or how it destroys, because it serves some sort of other motivation for them.
Using words to encourage people to embrace hopelessness and not vote is a propaganda technique to put Trump back in the Whitehouse, and him being there weakens the nation so immensely and catastrophically that it’s extremely attractive to cash and weapons poor enemies to plop someone in front of a cheap computer to spread propaganda to attempt to destroy a nation from within. People who can’t fight the US with military might will use words instead.
In short, your words are not neutral. You’re either what is called a useful idiot, an ordinary person who swallowed outside propaganda whole and does the work of other interests here, or you’re a knowing perpetrator.
I hope people here use whatever skills they picked up in English class however many years ago to think about not just the exact words of the poster I’m responding to, but why they posted this thing at this moment, their motivations beyond what they claim they are, and the effects of an appeal to truth on a reader and how that can influence perception even when the thing said isn’t actually necessarily true or contains such a small flake of some truth that it is effectively turns into a lie when put beside the bigger and more vast and complicated truths.
“no matter who wins, America loses”
That sounds like both-sides to me. Biden has done some objectively great things for Americans even with a senate fighting him for the first 2 years and a Congress for the last 2
