You are viewing a single thread.
View all comments View context
4 points
*

I love how you don’t highlight the Israelis murdered in the rocket attacks and other activities that kicked this latest round of conflict off. Almost like the usual suspects don’t care if Israelis die. The whole, “we don’t believe in mass murder” is complete bullshit. You just want one side to win and you don’t give a shit how.

permalink
report
parent
reply
4 points

Latest round, meaning October 7, or Rafah? Because according to the IDF, the recent rocket attacks out of Rafah didn’t injure anyone.

And if you’re treating an occupying force as being the same as the occupied population that is resisting them, you’re starting from a false premise of innocence.

Is it alright for Hamas to kill civilians? Of course not. Is it okay for them to attack Israel with the means they have available to them, when they are being regularly attacked by Israel? Of course. They’re both evil, but one is much more understandably so, assuming you don’t for instance think Nat Turner was wrong for fighting his oppressors?

permalink
report
parent
reply
9 points
*

Why do you assume that pro-Palestinian people = pro-Hamas? How many dead Israeli people is enough to justify genocide? Nobody is saying that Hamas are the good guys, but they do often say they understand the material realities that created them (Israeli state actions). Everyone I know that is saying don’t commit genocide also say it is not OK for Hamas to kill civilians, often in the same breath.

Edit: Some data for context

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/11/12/israel-hamas-war-data-shows-human-cost-of-conflict-through-the-years.html

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

Because they don’t complain when Hamas kills people. Simple.

permalink
report
parent
reply
6 points

But they do? Both the people you are responding to in this thread literally said it is not OK for Hamas to kill civilians. You also didn’t answer the second part:

How many dead Israeli people is enough to justify genocide?

permalink
report
parent
reply

Politics

!politics@beehaw.org

Create post

In-depth political discussion from around the world; if it’s a political happening, you can post it here.


Guidelines for submissions:
  • Where possible, post the original source of information.
    • If there is a paywall, you can use alternative sources or provide an archive.today, 12ft.io, etc. link in the body.
  • Do not editorialize titles. Preserve the original title when possible; edits for clarity are fine.
  • Do not post ragebait or shock stories. These will be removed.
  • Do not post tabloid or blogspam stories. These will be removed.
  • Social media should be a source of last resort.

These guidelines will be enforced on a know-it-when-I-see-it basis.


Subcommunities on Beehaw:


This community’s icon was made by Aaron Schneider, under the CC-BY-NC-SA 4.0 license.

Community stats

  • 1.1K

    Monthly active users

  • 1.5K

    Posts

  • 14K

    Comments