Funny how the usual suspects aren’t in here complaining about this. Meanwhile, Joe Biden doesn’t kowtow their every policy wish and he’s the devil.
Nope, they’d rather scream about “not voting for the lesser of two evils” full well knowing that if they don’t that the likelihood of Trump becoming president and having MUCH worse policies for the Palestinians becomes much greater.
But hey, why care about the realities of a situation when you can scream about principles or something?
Trump becoming president and having MUCH worse policies for the Palestinians becomes much greater.
Oh you mean Donald “Let’s try to move our embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem because appearing neutral in the Israel/Palestine mess is hurting my chances of re-election” Trump? That guy? People actually think he’s going to be better for Palestinians? Really?
I’m sorry that you think actually-murdered Gazans versus hypothetical future murders aren’t “realities” to be considered, just principles, or that you think choosing between 2 people who both profess backing policies that will result in said murders, is a normal choice to be making as an electorate.
Trump should already be in prison, for any number of crimes. So should Biden. That neither are, is an indicator of how “well” our system is working.
There is a fine line between “working from within a system to change it” and “validating and reifying the system, by being a willing participant”. If you are finding that your participation is not having the impact you intend, perhaps you should consider what side of that line you’re actually on?
Also I guess losing the majority on SCOTUS and losing abortion rights was just a “hypothetical scenario” when people like you refused to vote for Hillary in 2016?
When will you people learn that, yes, elections have consequences.
Trying to pretend like they might not and Trump might somehow not be worse is being deliberately obtuse and sticking your head in the sand. Wake up and smell the reality.
Please tell me about your hypothetical future where you don’t vote for Biden. Please explain to me what your best case scenario and outcome look like in that situation? Please tell me, what are you working towards?
If you think you’re going to change anything by not voting or voting third party then I have a bridge I’d love to sell you and decades of American history I’d like you to read.
Please explain to me what action you’re going to take and how that’s going to lead to positive change?
I love how you don’t highlight the Israelis murdered in the rocket attacks and other activities that kicked this latest round of conflict off. Almost like the usual suspects don’t care if Israelis die. The whole, “we don’t believe in mass murder” is complete bullshit. You just want one side to win and you don’t give a shit how.
I’m glad other people are noticing the propagandist nature of the people you’re talking about.
For specificity’s sake, we’re talking about the people who drumbeat on “genocide,” lay the entirety of the blame for that at Biden’s feet, and push not voting for Biden as the “solution.” They also so very carefully leave out important details like how congressional Republicans are putting forward legislation that would disallow Biden from pausing arms shipments to Israel (which Biden has said he’d veto).
And the propagandists aren’t here in this thread because that doesn’t work in this context. That being the context of reality where another Trump presidency would so very obviously be exponentially worse, not just for Palestinians, but for all manner of people in multiple places around the world, including the United States.
I am 100% in favor of criticizing the US’ relationship with Israel, especially considering Israel’s present actions against civilians. I would also like to maintain a US government that allows such criticism.
I am probably one of the “usual suspects” you are referring to, if that’s “people who believe Biden should be as accountable for his actions as anyone else, and not excused for participation in a genocide based on whether ignoring that is more convenient for me”.
It’s 9am where I am, so this article was posted at 5am my time. Sorry if I didn’t telepathically detect this post in my sleep, and arrive fast enough for your liking, to express my opposition to Trump.
This is completely illegal and unconstitutional, and is exactly why we should not even be allowing Trump to be a candidate. Sadly, no one with the power to stop him is doing so, because it serves too many peoples’ interests.
Also, I can’t post what I believe should be done about/ to Trump on Beehaw, as it would not adhere to Bee-ing Nice.
As a side note, it’s also hilarious to me that you don’t seem to realize that the “usual suspects” in this case, are those of us who Trump is talking about deporting.
The party of fascism and sociopaths.
I’d love to know the stats on the demographics of the pro-Palestinian protestors. Exactly how many American citizens is Trump proposing randomly dumping in another country because he doesn’t like what they’re saying?
I would say everyone should protest anyways, but then again I’m just one of “the usual suspects” who some other folks in this thread seem to be in agreement with Trump in believing that we are ruining America. :P
“And you know, you go back through history, this is like just before the Holocaust. I swear. If you look, it’s the same thing,” Trump said. “You had a weak president or head of the country. And it just built and built. And then, all of a sudden, you ended up with Hitler. You ended up with a problem like nobody knew.”
So Trump is claiming that Biden is a weak leader, and that after the weak leader comes somebody like Hitler. Trump hopes to be the person that comes after Biden…
I really hope for the sake of North America that they don’t vote Trump in again.
Like sure the current situation isn’t great. But holy hell was it bad with Trump lol. In Canada it made a ton of bad actor politicians come out of the woodwork and copy his play book. So his behavior is spreading.
