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Just wondering as a Mac user without much experience: how is Safari in terms of privacy compared to say Firefox?

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If they get caught

Won’t get caught if it’s closed source…

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Marketing angle, sure, but starting in 2019, Apple’s core MacOS product moved to selling users data to serve them better ads. They were only private for as long as they could attract new users with that. Now all they really have is “less privacy disrespecting than Windows 11 or ChromeOS”

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Eh, other vendors have been known to cooperative with police and government officials and hand over user data without a warrant - any evidence that’s been the case with Apple?

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Do you mean like… App Store and Apple News ads? What targeted MacOS ads are you talking about?

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Apple’s whole marketing angle is based on privacy to differentiate themselves from Google and the others. If they get caught doing something stupid it seems like that would cost them more than they would make from the stupid stuff.

You really believe that, don’t you?

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https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeanbaptiste/2019/07/30/confirmed-apple-caught-in-siri-privacy-scandal-let-contractors-listen-to-private-voice-recordings/?sh=3d0448257314

Apple is faux privacy.

Also, companies like Google are doing a ton of on device ML now. pretty much every single thing on my Pixel 7 Pro never leaves my device.

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You’re using an apple product, you didn’t have any privacy in the first place. Browser choice isn’t going to change that either way.

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Wrong, Apple doesn’t just hand over their user’s data without a warrant like other vendors.

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Because Google is a bastion of privacy

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Do you have proof of this? For example with the payment info on Apple Pay. It is all encrypted, not even the side I’m buying from sees my address or credit card info.

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It’s the same with Google Wallet, too, so that doesn’t really demonstrate anything.

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If a lack of privacy is like being nude in public, Apple is an expensive bouncer at an expensive club where you take your clothes off for free in front of people who pay apple a cover charge, because Apple promised them you have the biggest tits.

It’s kinda flattering, but is it really privacy?

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I don’t think u need to worry to much about ur browser when ur os is always sending info in the background.

What info? god knows, but its concerning how it increased after apple introduced his plan to do some shady Facebook like business just after u guessed, blocking Facebook for doing the same without giving him his part of the cake.

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when ur os is always sending info in the background.

Flashback to the Windows 10 launch, when typing anything while the resource manager was open revealed a small spike in internet traffic.

No clue what actually happened in the background, but it was consistent over multiple friends computers. Very fun.

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IMO much better. It’s Apple product. You give your data to them anyway while using macOS or iOS so that’s one argument: no need to share your data with anyone else.
Apart of that they have built in tracking blockers and I think they fiddle with cookies because I get logged out from services more frequently than on other browsers that I use for web development.

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Wait… Your argument is "it’s good for privacy because you sent your telemetry already anyway?

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I mean, it is a fair point that if you were worried about Safari’s privacy, you should’ve been worried about MacOS first.

It’d be like being worried about privacy of IE on Windows. The OS is doing everything and more.

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