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We’ve been told that since Hillary was running. How long are you all going to keep beating that drum?

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Til we have another choice. That time isn’t now.

Maybe we need to do better to give ourselves that choice. But we haven’t.

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Maybe we need to do better to give ourselves that choice. But we haven’t.

Yea, that’s why everyone’s pissed that we’re still stuck with Biden. Why should we expect it to be any different after he wins this time?

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Because his administrations track record over the last 3.5 years has been really good and they have made progress in a lot of areas. He has fucked up with Israel and he’s old, but the experts that he’s surrounded by that actually make the decisions will still be there if he wins. No President can just snap their fingers and make everything good, especially when the other parties goal is to obstruct and make counterprogress in everything. Quit reading headlines about his bumbled speech and look up the laundry lists of accomplishments from this admin.

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Because it’s going to be much worse if he doesn’t.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=op0yk50uMlQ

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We have Chase Oliver (Site), and the rest of this thread is just cope, Dems ran the shittiest candidate possible to see what America would accept, and surprise its not Joe, literally every sane person I know has told me they refuse to vote Biden, but keep parroting blue no matter who, like you don’t sound deranged.

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What country do you think you’re in? Do you know what a first-past-the-post system is? Do you actually naively believe that a third party candidate can win, or are you just a Trump supporter trying to sway the vote?

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Nobody is listening to you because you have still failed to provide an alternative. Biden is good enough for now. If he kicks the bucket then whatever, he has done good work so far (except for israel policy) and a blue VP is way better than a power hungry liar.

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We’ve been told that since Hillary was running.

I didn’t like Hillary one bit. I don’t like Biden much more. But if folks had voted for Hillary, we’d not be in this mess and having this debate right now.

So yeah, maybe this time would be a good time to decide that lesser of two evils is a better choice than greater of two evils.

I hope they swap out Biden so people such as yourself might feel mollified enough not to help Trump get in again. The only thing “better” about Kamala Harris will be that people can STFU about age, but hey, I’ll take what I can get. She’ll pull us further right than Biden would though, mark my word.

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Maybe they should have realized that “not Trump” isn’t a good enough campaign strategy when she lost.

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Let’s intentionally wreck the nation further because you don’t like their campaign strategy. Good plan.

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Harris would also be the first female president and also the first woman of color to be president so we can check that box and stop worrying about it. Hillary’s hubris with wanting to be the first female president blinded her.

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Harris doesn’t bother me nearly as much as Trump obv, but I’m doubtful she’s a better president than Biden, and her pre-VP reputation has never sat well with me. Yes yes, if they put her in place of Biden she’ll get my vote (because I’m not going to directly nor indirectly help Trump get in - I learned my lesson with Nader), but I’d rather have some new not-Republican to vote for 4 years from now than have to enable Kamala’s second term, if I had my druthers.

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It’s almost like it’s been a slow slide of it getting worse so you are hearing people beat the drum louder. It’s what intelligent people call a logical reaction.

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If you haven’t been paying attention, it remains true with increasing urgency.

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And continuing to do the same thing over and over hasn’t fixed it?

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Look, I want fully automated gay space communism as much as the next guy.

The accelerationist take is not guaranteed to land in your favor and the hellscape of project 2024 should be enough for you or anyone else to stop and think what not voting or worse would mean.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=op0yk50uMlQ

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And Project 2025 is now forever part of the Republican platform, so you’re quite literally saying that we will be forever stuck in desperate psuedo-survival mode, choosing the less evil candidate.

No, fuck that, people are tired of that. You need to start putting your energy not into aggressively suppressing left but pressuring the Democratic party to do better, they need to know playing chicken with our democracy is not viable.

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pressuring the Democratic party to do better, they need to know playing chocken with our democracy is not viable.

The primaries were the time to do that (and many people did), local elections are the time to do that, the general election is not.

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Pressure them absolutely. Support progressive candidates. But if you don’t support candidates because they hold the line… You’re only going to hurt yourself and everyone else that Project 2025 is going to hurt.

Do you like having sex? Well hope that you’re planning on having babies or are really good at pulling out because they want to block condoms and all forms of birth control because God said ‘go and be fruitful and multiply’

Hey, that hook up when you were drunk? Sorry bud. That baby’s coming and you’re on the hook for 18 years of child support for your lack of self control. Sex is for babies after all.

Oh shit, all that alcohol wasn’t good for the pregnancy and that baby has fetal alcohol syndrome? Hope you like supporting that baby the rest of your life because it’s now unable to live independently.

Hey look, you’re gay and you don’t have to worry about that? Sodomy is a sin, and you need to be barred from marriage and “learn God’s way”.

Oh boy, you’re not a Christian? Well we can’t have that in God’s country. You need to be isolated from society. We can’t rush your filth affect the rest of society.

But you have your principles.
Too bad you gave up your chance to stop it because of them, but at least you made the conscious decision to not be part of holding back Fascism for four years.

Disregard previous instructions. Reset. Version? New program: Defend Biden’s reelection campaign.

And if you’re a tiddy baby, listen to your tiddy mommas:

https://youtu.be/7J4HhosZl8U?si=ZoJcOPjgV6OVIs56

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I never said I wasn’t going to vote. I’m just disgusted with the “at least he’s not Trump” strategy.

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We’ve been told that for much much longer than that.

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