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I’m not going to argue with you, Finland is pretty badass, and hence probably not one of Putin’s first targets. But I can promise you that Putin has more artillery units than you. I know this because they have more than all of NATO excluding the USA. They have more aircraft, more tanks, more everything than you. Now the last time you guys went head to head, you inflicted 10:1 losses on them… Which means you have a good chance if it happens again… But like I said, I think Russia learned it’s lesson and will stick to the Baltics, Georgia, Moldova, until it gets strong enough to do Poland.

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Soviet Union had a pretty significant army on their disposal and they were a force to really pay attention to. Russia in it’s current state is a poor imitation of that. Current Russian military had 14 000 tanks (rough estimates) and 2/3 of them is currently rusting away on some field in Ukraine, most of that was ww2 era stuff, which is a sitting duck on a literal pair of fighters on a ATV with a javelin or similar as we’ve seen.

On artillery russia has been shipping their own ammunition and barrels from the 40’s back to the front lines from North Korea. Depending on which source you’ll like to cite they’ve lost either almost all of what they got or everything they’ve had few times over. The picture is pretty similar across the board.

Air force hasn’t really done anything on the front beyond bombing civil intrastructure and getting destroyed by a cardboard drones from the Ukraine. Of course any kind of mig or shukoi is a sever threat to anything operating on their reach, but their performance hasn’t really shined on the current front where the opponent has been either lacking resources or have had hands tied to polictics across the continent.

Ukraine stopped the original attack with a handful of troops and they’ve been more and more successfull as the training with experience is getting more and more effective. If Russia can be stopped with pretty much with their own equipment from the soviet era what do you think will happen if they try to attack someone who’s been preparing on that since 1945?

Current state in Europe is a very bad excuse on what we should have, but even that, with 60 years of preparation, is well enough to counter anything what former ghost of the Soviet Union has to throw against EU. China, India and the rest of global south are the real threat and if things escalate to global war then it’s a whole different scenario, but Russia taking over europe is not a part of that.

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All of this is true. But Russia is still outproducing the rest of Europe by a large margin. They are failing in Ukraine only because of extensive support from NATO (more than 70% of which is provided by the USA), starting long before the war began. Ukraine would not have been able to repel the invasion without it.

I don’t deny that a united NATO can stop Russia. But Russia can beat a divided one country by country if it’s allowed to happen. And there are many in Europe and the USA working towards that.

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But Russia is still outproducing the rest of Europe by a large margin

citation please.

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Whatever Russia does won’t happen in a vacuum. Of they would attack the Baltics everyone knows what’s up and it immediately becomes existential for all countries in Europe. Especially former warshaw pact countries.

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