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Probably appeared to Paul in person before ascension, because fuck Paul sounds like a grifter.

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paul was an agent of rome sent to subvert and coopt jesus’ revolutionary anti-imperialist movement, beginning the process of transforming that message into one compatible with the ideological superstructure of the roman empire, a process that culminated with constantine and the council of nicaea after three centuries of murdering “heretics”

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I think this theory is better if he wasn’t specifically sent, but just a guy saying tons of shit to be famous/wealthy/etc. and Rome allowed his words to spread because they were less confrontational. These things were the “systemic” defense of an existing base-superstructure system.

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There’s also the fact that most of Paul’s odder statements, like banning women from leadership, are not by him at all. Only about half his epistles are actually by him or his immediate inner circle.

FWIW, I don’t think Paul was a grifter, I think he was a former grifter who became a sincere convert after some weird shit happened to him, and unfortunately like Evrart in Disco Elysium he was just so slimy it drips off him onto the page.

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holy shit paul is the nereveraine

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Guy who killed a bunch of christians until they became too popular: “g-guys! Trust me! I will invent catholicism and be the true successor of Jesus!”

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Thinking about what would have happened to Catholicism if the Johannine Middle Platonists and mystics hadn’t mostly supplanted Pauline Christology in the late 2nd century and it’s not a good feeling.

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The Roman empire basically adopted Christianity in the same way the FBI tweeted a celebratory tweet on MLK day.

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