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Actually. Scratch my last comment. I want your advice.

We’ve had disagreements before and every time you seem to go all seem to devolve into the same labeling and accusations of bad faith.

What is the appropriate way to express disagreement or question a mainstream narrative on this platform in such a way I don’t get labeled something (ie the way you did when you called me zionist or Dean browning here). Give me some pointers. I want to get better.

Don’t say vague stuff ( don’t lie etc). Pretend I’m asking in good faith. Actually try to engage with me as if I was a human being.

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We’ve had disagreements before and every time you seem to go all seem to devolve into the same labeling and accusations of bad faith.

That’s usually a sign that you have a tendency to argue in bad faith and to pretend to be something other than what you self-label as.

Give me some pointers.

You want to learn how to argue in good faith? Take a course in rhetoric and one in ethics. While I’m able to argue in good faith, I’m neither inclined nor qualified to teach people foreign to the concept how to.

Pretend I’m asking in good faith.

There’s suspension of disbelief, there’s putting completely justified skepticism aside, and then there’s this. I might as well pretend that you’re the sultan of Brunei or my cat 🙄

Actually try to engage with me as if I was a human being.

I have this whole time. That I’ve called out your dishonesty and misconceptions while doing so doesn’t in any way dehumanize you. Stop being such a Drama Dean.

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Aaaand I just lost all respect for you.

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Oh woe is me! How will I ever cope without the respect of some rando slinging false equivalences? 😭

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But you go to the bad faith accusation right away. You waste no time. It’s usually 1-2 comments in. As a person on the left, I can never disagree with any of the positions our side takes. It’s absurd. Even here, I’m asking you for genuine advice. Sincerely. From one human being person to another, and the best you can do is “take a course on rhetoric”. You never even gave me a chance.

I never called you out as bad faith. I never labeled you. I never accused you. You still put me down. Your tone is dismissive and derisive. Why? What did I say exactly that triggered this reaction? I"m genuinely curious.

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“I’m a Leftist” counter: 1,230,579,078 instances this thread and counting folks!

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It’s not worth arguing with these people. They’re so antigun that they’ll defend the domestic abuser, the child molester and felon because they hate guns. Even though one of the people they defend had a firearm there illegally… they’re also very very ignorant about the case. The last time this shit came up, there were people on here saying Rittenhouse killed 3 black people… that’s how fucking ignorant they are.

These people are the equivalent of the rightwing maga idiots. There is zero discussion you can have with someone who is willfully ignorant of facts.

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