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We’ve had disagreements before and every time you seem to go all seem to devolve into the same labeling and accusations of bad faith.

That’s usually a sign that you have a tendency to argue in bad faith and to pretend to be something other than what you self-label as.

Give me some pointers.

You want to learn how to argue in good faith? Take a course in rhetoric and one in ethics. While I’m able to argue in good faith, I’m neither inclined nor qualified to teach people foreign to the concept how to.

Pretend I’m asking in good faith.

There’s suspension of disbelief, there’s putting completely justified skepticism aside, and then there’s this. I might as well pretend that you’re the sultan of Brunei or my cat 🙄

Actually try to engage with me as if I was a human being.

I have this whole time. That I’ve called out your dishonesty and misconceptions while doing so doesn’t in any way dehumanize you. Stop being such a Drama Dean.

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But you go to the bad faith accusation right away. You waste no time. It’s usually 1-2 comments in. As a person on the left, I can never disagree with any of the positions our side takes. It’s absurd. Even here, I’m asking you for genuine advice. Sincerely. From one human being person to another, and the best you can do is “take a course on rhetoric”. You never even gave me a chance.

I never called you out as bad faith. I never labeled you. I never accused you. You still put me down. Your tone is dismissive and derisive. Why? What did I say exactly that triggered this reaction? I"m genuinely curious.

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“I’m a Leftist” counter: 1,230,579,078 instances this thread and counting folks!

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It’s not worth arguing with these people. They’re so antigun that they’ll defend the domestic abuser, the child molester and felon because they hate guns. Even though one of the people they defend had a firearm there illegally… they’re also very very ignorant about the case. The last time this shit came up, there were people on here saying Rittenhouse killed 3 black people… that’s how fucking ignorant they are.

These people are the equivalent of the rightwing maga idiots. There is zero discussion you can have with someone who is willfully ignorant of facts.

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I know. But look at the vote ratio. It’s a lot of them. I never get to discuss the substance of any topic because I have to spend 90% the time defending why i’m not a conservative. Sometimes I wonder if its a limitation of text based communication where tone is inferred. Or maybe people are captured by epistemic bubbles. I have no idea! I’m going to keep trying though. There has to be a way to communicate with them.

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Aaaand I just lost all respect for you.

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Oh woe is me! How will I ever cope without the respect of some rando slinging false equivalences? 😭

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While I’m disappointed by all this because we’ve had some good conversations here in the past, a quick view of your post history shows me those were the exception, not the rule. You frequently deflect, project, fabricate, and ultimately insult to attack opposing viewpoints, all the while wrapping yourself in a banner of legitimacy by claiming the other is illegitimate, simply for being the other. You determine they’re the other by pulling frequent “no true Scotsmans” based on the flimsiest proof. All of this just like the MAGA fascists did to Kyle Rittenhouse as described in the linked article. For what it’s worth, we’re on the same side on Rittenhouse, though I now know you’ll use that as evidence I’m a MAGA plant, a fake leftist, or something similar.

You’re so afraid of facing someone on an equal playing field that you burn and salt the field as a matter of course. Or maybe you just believe what you think of right is the ultimate truth so strongly that you feel justified in bludgeoning people that disagree. Or maybe you’re just a bully that enjoys what you do. Who knows.

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