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Sadly Is pixel only… right?

Yup

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And no tap to pay or wallet, so I can’t switch :(

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Yea, but it’s a good phone to target, Pixels are one of the few remaining manufacturers that freely let you unlock the BL and probably one of the last that is carried by nearly all major US carriers. OnePlus used to be another but iirc they’ve stopped selling on all carriers stores

Yes yes yes, you can buy any frequency-compatible phone you’d like from like Amazon, AliExpress, Best Buy, manufacturer store etc but that’s an expensive option for many as you have to front the entire purchase price with little exception.

So if you want a BL unlockable phone, purchased through a carrier to take advantage of the reduced financial load of payments instead of all up front, in the US…it’s pretty much just Pixels

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Thank you for not saying that the bootloader comes unlocked. It doesnt.

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You can’t unlock the bootloader on carrier-locked Pixel phones; they need to be SIM unlocked in order for the “OEM Unlocking” option to be available.

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Yes, but it’s far easier to obtain a SIM unlock than it is to unlock a BL from a manufacturer that just says “No” instead of “As long as it gets carrier unlocked”

I have a Pixel Fold purchased and (still) financed through T-Mobile that is BL unlocked and rooted. Most of the time they’ll override their SIM unlock requirements if you’ve had an account for awhile. Unsure about ATT, I’ve heard they’re 50/50. Verizon, ofc, are a bunch of bitches about it

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I was interested because everyone keeps talking about it and I wanted to try it myself but it’s compatible only with pixels. I have a Samsung and I changed phone recently so I’m not going to buy it again. I don’t want to spend 600+ for a new phone + 2/300? (100?) for the buds but my next phone will be a pixel🤔

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Oof, yea Samshits are the worst of the worst. They’re actively hostile to those who would dare want to use their phone how they see fit.

Even if the stars align and people are able to breakthrough the BL lockdown, Samshit phones are designed to blow an efuse and permanently lock the phone to 80% battery capacity just for a big ol fuck you

Never EVER buy Samshit phones if you can help it

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Why would you want to buy new buds?

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Even Verizon? I’ve had a few phones from Verizon that were supposedly easy to root or whatever but they have that shit locked down tight.

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Verizon are a bunch of bitches about it, they’re as bad as Samshit. They’re a match made in hell tbh.

Of the major 3 carriers, it’s always been T-Mobile that’s the “most friendly” to tinkerers. Technically, you can’t unlock the BL until it’s been carrier unlocked, which TMO is generally OK about overriding their requirements as long as you’ve had an account for awhile

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I recently bought and then returned a used Verizon pixel 8 because I couldn’t unlock the bootloader or even add a non Verizon eSIM.

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https://eylenburg.github.io/android_comparison.htm

I checked, yeah you’re right, nobody else supports scoping

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Oh! I meant grapheneOS, It looked interesting and I wanted to install it on my phone

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It’s only guaranteed to work with pixels. It still works with other phones, but with varying degrees of success and obviously no official support.

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Oh… If there’s no official support and problems, I’m not going to install it

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I’m using it on a Fairphone 5 since a while. Works flawless

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Unfortunately not in NA.

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Are you building it yourself? Even updates?

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But which version? Plus, I’ve learned todsy that Samshit locks the battery at 80% with unlocked BL… Even if I’m using it on my dev phone, 20% is A LOT

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What the hell, why?

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