Elon Musk-controlled satellite internet provider Starlink has told Brazil’s telecom regulator Anatel it will not comply with a court order to block social media platform X in the country until its local accounts are unfrozen.

Anatel confirmed the information to Reuters on Monday after its head Carlos Baigorri told Globo TV it had received a note from Starlink, which has more than 200,000 customers in Brazil, and passed it onto Brazil’s top court.

Supreme Court Justice Alexandre de Moraes last week ordered all telecom providers in the country to shut down X, which is also owned by billionaire Musk, for lacking a legal representative in Brazil.

The move also led to the freezing of Starlink’s bank accounts in Brazil. Starlink is a unit of Musk-led rocket company SpaceX. The billionaire responded to the account block by calling Moraes a “dictator.”

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the problem is starlink is actually a good thing, providing decent internet access to places that can’t get it otherwise. I think the thing to target is the clear collusion going on between companies in ostensibly unrelated industries to pressure a government into reversing a penalty on one of them.

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Starlink is a ridiculous centralized solution to what should be solved by upgrading fiber networks.

It’s a bandaid with limited usefulness after maybe a decade. Basically an exercise in generating space junk.

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Upgrade what? There is no fiber cross crossing Brazil

Congratulations on answering your own question. Now calm down.

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In a lot of cases I would agree with you, but laying fiber optic cable through the Amazon in order to connect remote settlements is not feasible, starlink really does have a good use case there.

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And ocean communication.

It’s amazingly clear none of these people have ever tried to use any of the existing Geostationary satellite data networks.

They are slow as shit. Not just by modern standards, by any standards. HughesNet is one of the remaining satellite Internet providers.

$50/mo gives you 50Mbps speeds, 100GB of “Priority Data”, whatever the fuck that is (probably your 50Mbps data, then it slows). And that price is only for a year, then it is $75/mo. They also love to tout a 30ms latency somehow, but that’s just a damned lie. Latency for a Geostationary satellite is around 500ms, or roughly the speed of light because that’s physics. So I have no idea where they think they’re getting 30ms, unless that’s only the additional latency they’re claiming AFTER it bounces off the satellite and reaches the ground to be routed to the internet on their end.

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Nah, Starlink itself is bad, the intention is good.

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what specifically is “bad” about it? I understand people are concerned about space junk, but it seems worth the benefit to me.

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It’s wrecking astronomy already and we aren’t even at the peak of satellite constellations.

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Can it be a good thing while it’s controlled by someone so clearly looking to exploit it’s influence for personal gain?

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Putting up tens of thousands of extra objects into orbit that we now have to track and worry about collisions with other satellites is not a good thing.

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Not to mention that their orbits degrades over time so they have to be continually replenished. That comes at a huge cost which is highly subsidized by US tax payers.

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That comes at a huge cost which is highly subsidized by US tax payers.

Hang on. Which subsidy are you saying Starlink is getting that is highly subsidized by US taxpayers? Starlink got rejected for the $900m broadband subsidy.

Note for clarity: Musk is an asshat.

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Also, each satelite that burns up upon re-entry isn’t just gone - it still introduces vaporized materials into the upper atmosphere.

Iirc they are harming the ozone layer.

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They are far, far lower than the ozone layer.

You remember incorrectly.

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I think the thing to target is the clear collusion going on between companies in ostensibly unrelated industries to pressure a government into reversing a penalty on one of them.

Specifically because they are controlled by the same asshat. This is the same exact type of shit he does with stock manipulation and why he was eventually forced to buy Twitter. All his wealth has been generated by cheating and exploitation. I hope Brazil drops the hammer.

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Compounding fines would be a nice touch. Then send in the lawyers to actually break the money free.

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clear collusion

It’s less so “collusion” than it is “a billionaire brat using their obscene wealth and plethora of businesses to strong arm their way out of any accountability”. We can’t consider starlink a “good thing” because it will always be part of that, and any group or government relying on it to any degree should take note.

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