Are you trolling or uninformed? Maiden coup by the US? Murder of tens of thousands of ethnic Russians in the independent republics? Continual NATO overreach which Putin complained about to the UN multiple times?

While it’s true that Russia could just stop their invasion and leave and that’d be that, it’s not likely to happen. I really doubt they are willing to give up any of their conquered land.

…since its been two years…

Ten. It’s been ten years and the fact that so many people ignore this unfortunately makes the “Russian assets” argument look all that more legitimate. –It is a dumb argument but people really need to stop acting like this just started in 2022.

My favorite pastime is swapping the word Ukraine with Palestine:

Palestinians are not capable of defeating Israel. They need to make concessions with Israel and come to a peace agreement and two state solution. Palestinians should not fight back to recapture all their land. Israel will keep their word they are good for it.
Compromise? Ukraine needs to push every last Russian out of Crimea and recapture all their land! Who cares if they will win, fight till the last Ukrainian!

bad fedpost is bad. stop supporting genocide.

That last one a depressingly common perspective among people in power in Ukraine, including Zelensky.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/4/5/zelenskyy-says-wants-ukraine-to-become-a-big-israel

Can you explain why supporting US interests in the middle east is bad (among others arms sales in “Israel”), but supporting US interests in Ukraine (arms sales, privatization) is good somehow?

Free Palestine, Fuck NATO.

Oh so you don’t care about the people then, got it. You don’t care about the invaded people. If your stance is anti US, you are happy. Even if that’s a trash stance, at least you are consistent I guess.

You don’t care about the invaded people.

Putting just randomly invading Ukraine. No interests, no security concerns, no geopolitics involved, am I right?

Oh so you don’t care about the people then, got it.

Oh so you don’t care about Israelis, just letting the Palestinians take hostages, got it.

The INVADED PEOPLE? Holy fuck man. Ukraine under our directions were and still are killing them by the tens of thousands!!! Are you a comic book villain or what? To this day, Ukraine is launching suicide drones and missiles at their (own) civilian population in the independent republics.

Yes because Russia only exists because of the UK giving the land from whatever-brown-people

Russia only exists in its present form because the Russians subjugated 190 other nationalities in a centuries-long imperialist expansion.

Because Russia just invaded out of nowhere, right?

I’m just happy there’s no mental gymnastics anymore about them being the invader. That’s something

Hey look who peeked their nose outside of their mind palace

What part am I explaining?

Preferably your whole comment

Yes that is indeed what happened.

Well you’re just stupid then

I might be, but lets put that to the side, why did russia invade ukraine?

NATO expansion

Which is not real. I am saddened you choose to believe in it.

Sovereign countries can’t choose their allies? Really? When long-time neutral countries have decided that not even being neutral will protect them anymore from invasion, your answer is that they should be invaded?

Russia has the world’s largest land mass of any country, and the longest border. And they think they’re entitled buffer states all along that border? How is that in the interest of the people in those neighboring states? Most of them have already experienced the joys of having a Russian boot on their neck, and have voted with their feet to control their own destinies instead.

Demonstrate a good faith attempt to answer the question yourself. It’s been two years.

You’re the one that asked the question, “Because Russia just invaded out of nowhere, right?” It’s clearly your turn to answer here.

If you’re actually curious and have 20 minutes, try this video: Ukraine: The Avoidable War

I’ve got a peace plan. Russia leaves Ukraine the fuck alone instead of invading, yeah? This world is too fucken much.

Well, this doesn’t look like a realistic peace plan.

Darn, I guess Russia will just have to keep losing hundreds of thousands of soldiers, their last few remaining naval ships, countless war resources, land within their own territory and suffer the consequences of continuing their invasion, like being dealt long range attacks on their territory

They only have about 20-30k dead. Ukraine is like 800,000+
Regardless of death figures that each state puts out consider this. What do both “sides” have to say about which side has air superiority and arms superiority? Now use your brain. Think real hard.

Yeah, both Ukrainians and Russians will continue dying, hundreds of thousands if not millions of people :(

I just hope it will end sooner rather than later, although I don’t see a chance of this happening unless somebody assassinates Zelensky or if USA elects Trump and he will keep his wording on ending it.

Very telling that your only assassination recommendation was zelensky and not putin. Followed up by only if trump wins? The only thing trump will do is shut off support to Ukraine because he’s putins fucking tool, just like you apparently

Very telling that your only assassination recommendation was zelensky and not putin.

Because the last time I checked, it’s Zelensky who for the whole duration of the conflict refuses any negotiation, not Putin. It’s Zelensky who turned Ukraine into a mass prison. It’s Zelensky whose regime kidnaps people on the streets and sends them to die.

Followed up by only if trump wins? The only thing trump will do is shut off support to Ukraine

That’s your opinion and nothing more than that. He promised to end the war by forcing both parties to negotiate. But even if he “shuts off support to Ukraine” - this will be the best thing for Ukrainians that happened in the last 3 years. Without western support, Zelensky won’t be able to terrorize Ukrainians anymore.

Turn on English subtitles here and enjoy an ex colonel of AFU (generally an extremely pro-Ukrainian guy btw if you watch his other videos, you can’t claim this being a Russian propaganda ;-) ) talking about current anti-Ukrainian Ukrainian government turning Pokrovsk (and actually the rest of the country too) into a concentration camp: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7AXSB_WnYV0

Without western support, Zelensky won’t be able to terrorize Ukrainians anymore.

Yeah, right. Zelensky won’t be able to “terrorize” Ukrainians by resisting an imperialist invasion, and Putin will turn the entire country into a concentration camp run by a Russian stooge, while systematically destroying Ukrainian identity (which is cultural genocide) and strip-mining Ukraine of anything worth stealing.

And when such trustworthy nations as China and Iran, both of whom have been providing weapons to Russia, offer a peace plan, anyone who’s not an idiot will know that the plan rewards the aggressor and demands the capitulation of the victim. Just like China’s “peaceful” intentions towards Taiwan, and their “peaceful” seizure of territory in the Philippines. And we all know what a force for global peace the mad mullahs in Iran have been, when they’re not busy murderously suppressing anti-government demonstrations by their own people.

Then Putin will go on to similarly “liberate” the Latvians, Lithuanians, Estonians, Moldovans, Georgians, and if Trump sufficiently undermines NATO, Poland too.

Why should the president of an invaded country have to negotiate with the invaders? They can leave and then it’s all over.

Also it’s for you to say only Ukraine is taking people off the street. Putins been throwing prisoners on the front line. He is notorious for locking up any vocal dissenter… sooooo how are you not including him in this equation?

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