One of the admins at lemmy.blahaj.zone asked us to purge a community and all of its users because they thought it was full of child sexual abuse material, aka CSAM, fka kiddy porn. We assured them that we had checked this comm thoroughly and we were satisfied that all of the models on it were of age.

The admin then demanded we purge the comm because they mistook it for CSAM, and claimed that the entire point of the community was to make people think it was CSAM. We vehemently disagreed that that was in fact the point of the community, but they decided to defederate from us anyway. That is of course their choice, but we will not purge our communities or users because someone else makes a mistake of fact, and then lays the responsibility for their mistake at our feet.

If someone made a community intended to fool people into thinking it was kiddy porn, that would be a real problem. If someone of age goes online and pretends – not roleplays, but pretends with intent to deceive – to be a child and makes porn, that is a real problem. Nobody here is doing that.

One of the reasons we run our instance the way that we do is that we want it to be inclusive. We don’t body shame, and we believe that all adults have a right to sexual expression. That means no adult on our instance is too thin, fat, bald, masculine, old, young, cis, gay, etc., to be sexy, and that includes adults that look younger than some people think they should. Everyone has a right to lust and to be lusted after. There’s no way to draw a line that says “you can’t like adult people that look like X” without crossing a line that we will not cross.

EDIT: OK, closing this post to new comments. Everything that needs saying has been said. Link to my convo with the blahaj admin here.

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45 points

Yeah, like I’m 20 but based on my face some people think I’m 16, and other people don’t. Does that magically make my partner a pedo?

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33 points

Apparently, according to some, yes.

It’s dumb. But, they have an opinion, so…

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31 points

💀 honestly, it feels like sometimes they are so strict on it because they want to prove they aren’t

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9 points

Honestly, while there was a lot of progress on calling out abuse and exploitation, everything around teenagers has gotten so charged that not vocally decrying anything that is even in the neighborhood is enough to get piled on. Pornhub now pretends the teen category doesn’t exist in their research analytics, most search engines block porn searches for teen, even though it’s always referred to legal 18/19 year olds (or late twenties depending on how petite they are).

Like, I don’t miss “creepy uncles” being a thing that everyone brushed off, but this hair trigger response is way too much.

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It can make pedos attracted to you even though they know you are 20. How. to react to that is of course up to you. But it is something to be aware of.

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12 points

I think its probably fine, the only reason I look young is just relatively smooth skin and not much facial hair

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TFW you don’t even know what pedophilia is, but decide to have an opinion on it anyways… ^Of course I’m sure there’s a human out there that through some disease or abnormality never went through puberty, and still appear as if they are prepubescent.^

You are, however, correct in that attraction is involuntary, it is not something one is able to control, and can have attraction forced upon them.

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16 points

@Onebanana1 @tooren

You might as well argue pouring sugar in your coffee could trigger drug addicts into taking hard drugs again, because white powder.

It’s the same argument. Both are equally ridiculous.

Actual abuse should be prosecuted to the fullest extent. But not because it might have incited someone else to break the law. You need an actual victim, with testimony, to conduct an investigation and a prosecution.

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15 points

If you look 16 you’ll be too old for someone actually suffering from pedophilia. They are attracted to children before puberty has done its thing.

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Even if your partner did find that attractive that would just mean that they, like the grand majority of the population, are attracted to the sexually mature/maturing 16-18 range. Something like 10 years too old to be pedophilia.

This is a statement of fact not a statement of opinion, nor a statement of acceptance or encouragement. I say this preemptively because there are always those commenters who will attack you personally because they’re trying to manufacture outrage. Making it impossible to talk about real world subjects.

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