There are a bunch of sicko neoliberals and insufferable redditors there, yes, but there are also some normal libs and a few comrades, and it seems like a good way to encourage lemmy generally to re-embrace leftism.
I’ve been using an alt to talk on there and it’s honestly not that bad. It’s a little bad, but not that bad. I think if we just try to patiently explain ourselves, we have a reasonable chance of reaching people and shifting the general political alignment.
Those of us who aren’t up to dealing with ghouls (I am frequently included in this group) can just stay at home here and that’s just fine.
Anyway, just an idea. I would appreciate feedback.
Ukrainian citizens (not the US)
These are not mutually exclusive. When the US does a color revolution, they amplify real social problems to get people into the streets. Then groups the US has financed (and armed), usually well before the actual tipping point, are used to steer the revolution in a way that’s favorable to the US, with the US diplomatic support hinging on that faction’s ascension to power. While the 2014 revolution started with euro-friendly liberals playing piano in the streets, it was quickly coopted by far-right groups.
There’s similar articles from the time trying to make sense of why neonazi paramilitary groups were incorporated into the military instead of purged.
Respectable sources (say, historian Timothy Snyder) say that Ukrainian citizens (not the US) kicked out the president who faked election results
Timothy Snyder (respectable Nazi historical revisionist) and Wikipedia disagree with them? Excellent fact checking.
Here’s a good article on the issue.
I don’t think you can justifiably call a request for surrender a request for de-escalation. Russia could stop shooting, get out of UA, and the war would end.
Why do you think Russia invaded Ukraine?
