cross-posted from: https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/22423685

EDIT: For those who are too lazy to click the link, this is what it says

Hello,

Sad news for everyone. YouTube/Google has patched the latest workaround that we had in order to restore the video playback functionality.

Right now we have no other solutions/fixes. You may be able to get Invidious working on residential IP addresses (like at home) but on datacenter IP addresses Invidious won’t work anymore.

If you are interested to install Invidious at home, we remind you that we have a guide for that here: https://docs.invidious.io/installation/..

This is not the death of this project. We will still try to find new solutions, but this might take time, months probably.

I have updated the public instance list in order to reflect on the working public instances: https://instances.invidious.io. Please don’t abuse them since the number is really low.

Feel free to discuss this politely on Matrix or IRC.

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105 points

Start asking your favourite content creators to post on PeerTube.

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94 points

And how are they going to make a living to keep producing videos?

I’d say ask them to join Nebula.

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30 points

That depends. If they only make a living with YT ads, then it’s going to be hard.

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29 points

About half the ads I see on YouTube are already within the videos they post. I wonder what the overall ratio is of YouTube ad revenue versus in-video ad revenue.

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9 points

I guess I forgot things like Patreon which could be a valid option. Although I’m neither a fan of subscribing to specific creators nor am I particularly fond of Patreon.

With Nebula my perception is that I pay a monthly fee and they can figure out who gets what depending on whose videos I watched. I don’t need to be particular in my action on who to support.

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25 points

Remember when people posted on YouTube for fun? It’s only when it became a viable business that the platform turned to shit.

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3 points

Ah yes, youtube now is just one big ad and sponsorship cesspool flooded with clickbait and misinformation and with highly privacy invasive protocol. Its a souless capitalisic corporate machine. I dont know why people would still use it. Just let youtube die.

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17 points

All the people I watch on youtube make the majority of their money on patreon or twitch. Youtube is way too heavy handed with demonitization and copyright strikes to be a trutsworthy income source.

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Nebula is cool and all, but at the end of the day, it’s still a commercial platform, and those do tend to enshittify and depend a lot on externalities.

As creators grow more dependent on Nebula, Sam and the team of original Nebula creators can wield more power and change the rules.

They already dictate the kind of content that is allowed - for example, Second Thought, one of the original creators behind Nebula, was asked to leave as he doesn’t agree to change public stance on Israeli-Palestinian conflict (he is pro-Palestine). This has suddenly left him without a source of revenue necessary for the production to expand, and has put him into debt.

Solution? Probably independent sponsorships that would go both on YouTube and PeerTube videos. Or a creator reward system like in Lbry/Odysee. Something that would allow to reward creators without going full commercial.

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7 points

They can still post on YouTube.

It might take a tiny bit of their revenue away but I doubt it would make much of a dent, especially for creators that run mostly on patreon anyway.

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7 points

Patreon and all the other services creators have at their disposal already.

Don’t think most Youtubers can make a living these days solely on YT as revenue, and are already exploring other avenues.

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4 points

Direct payment to creators seems like the most simple and efficient method.

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Paying Nebula subscriber here 🙋‍♂️

I can’t stand hearing people whine about wanting everything for free and how DARE people try to make a living so they can eat in between making videos!!!

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So you want them to take a huge pay cut? To what benefit, just YoUTubE bAd?

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I just want the videos no creator makes money on. I expect thats about 50% at least. Let’s start there. Put them in the Library of Congress and YouTube will be free to enshittify themselves into oblivion without complaint.

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And then watch the peertube instance die. See also: https://github.com/Chocobozzz/PeerTube/issues/5783

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or odysee ig but i cannot find a good peertube instance i can post in

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1 point

What are your criteria for a good instance? I host one myself, so genuinely curious.

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2 points

The age limit yeah I think the peertube instances on their site follow the gdpr

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4 points

Civvie 11 is a old head. How do I convince him?

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2 points

What have you tried so far?

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2 points

on which instance?

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Tilvids.com is a good start. Fx The Linux Experiment is there.

Otherwise, I host peertube.wtf.

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And while we’re at it, stop calling them ‘content creators’

EDIT: to clarify, my stance on this is that ‘content creator’ devalues the human endeavour behind a piece of work (or content, if you will). Instead it’s just slop for the machine, and who cares what it is as long as it gets numbers, right?

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42 points

What is the alternative name for someone who creates content for a platform?

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3 points

Well, we start by referring ta work not as “content”, but as what it actually is. Then work from there. For instance, one could ostensibly call Ahoy a filmmaker or a documentary maker.

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2 points

Do we need a general term? Someone who uploads their videos to a video platform is probably a “video producer”.

https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html#Content

https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html#Creator

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18 points

I’ll take the name Content Creator over Influencer any day.

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16 points

Why? What else would we call them?

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To answer the “why”, it’s because the word “content” is kinda meaningless. Instead of making films, documentaries, talk shows, reference guides, cartoons… it’s all just this generic “content” slop that’s just there to feed the machine

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-3 points

Call them what they truely are. Digital panhandlers

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-5 points

Entertainers. Show women/men.

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8 points

Right. Call them youtubers! Wait…

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Male/female adult online entertainer?

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