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“Harm reduction” is not in the vocabulary of these internet addicted “intellectuals”.

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Keep in mind that most of them (like OP) are right wing agitators trying to drive a wedge.

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While I agree this is definitely a big issue, most of my friends are various leftists. There is a clear line where the white, straight, cis, financially secure, and healthy ones are, or were, definitely of this mind. Though, in my case, few of them are still this way, after years of discourse with everyone else, who don’t have the privilege of not having to vote DNC, lest our lives become quantifiably more dangerous.

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While I agree this is definitely a big issue

Is it though? Your sampling is limited to friends who you say are no longer “this way”. If your sample is sufficient evidence that it was a problem, then it’s sufficient evidence that it’s no longer a problem.

In reality, polls have shown progressives to be the most reliable voters in the country. Beyond that, they are the most involved in volunteering their time for Democratic campaigns.

There is nothing wrong with getting the message out that voting for Democrats is critical to everything the left might hope to achieve. However, framing the debate in a way that blames the left for the failings of liberal centrists is far more likely to push some people in the wrong direction. It’s not just unfair and unproductive, it’s anti-productive.

There is a reason that when the Democratic establishment doesn’t push this message that right wing trolls like OP do it for them.

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Genocide is binary.

Anything that furthers genocide is not capable of being harm reduction.

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So then where the fuck do you get off advocating for letting the guy who’s already handed Israel East Jerusalem, West Bank, and The Golan Heights back into office to recognize Gaza as Rightful Israel Clay?

You are claiming the moral high ground over us lowly votescolds while taking the course of action that would actually be what furthers genocide.

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So then where the fuck do you get off advocating for letting the guy who’s already handed Israel East Jerusalem, West Bank, and The Golan Heights back into office to recognize Gaza as Rightful Israel Clay?

And did less damage through that then what is currently happening right now. Not defending Trump here, but you seem incapable of recognizing that the worst crime that can be committed is happening now. Under Biden.

Again, Genocide is binary. It is happening now. You can try and ignore that, if it will make you feel better somehow, but you know exactly what you would have been doing in the Weimar Republic, or how you would have felt about John Brown before the civil war.

There is absolutely no self-consistent moral framework that will support your current arguments. If your moral system is just “That feels wrong, that feels right” with no actual value system, then I’m sure that that is fine with you.

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Gotcha, better to not vote for a “genocider” so you can wash your hands of the unbridled rape and murder of Palestine when trump ends up president in 2025.

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Versus the unbridled rape and murder of Palestine now?

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I agree, we should just not vote to stick it to the DNC. When red voters show up to the polls and blue voters don’t and Trump wins, I’m sure all the transgender people in America whose lives are now in danger will sleep much better at night knowing that the blood of all those Palestinians who are still dying because Trump is funneling bombs to Israel faster than Biden was isn’t on your hands, because you didn’t help put him in office.

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Nor are things like “strategic voting.” It’s really unfortunate

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No people know what it means to pick the less disgusting turd out of the bowl. They’re just tired of eating shit for “strategic reasons”.

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Am I the only one who just realized that these people who are so tired are usually just kids who’ve voted in at most two elections and didn’t even participate in the primaries or local elections?

If y’all put half the energy into being consistent voters that ya did in bitching about “having to” once in a blue moon when you’re dragged by the hair to the polls first.

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