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And it isn’t a Chinese island; that’s the point. It’s a democratic, independent country that happens to be a US ally. 😍

And it isn’t a Ukrainian province; that’s the point. It’s a democratic, independent country that happens to be a Russian ally. 😡

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What does this even mean? You’re comparing cats and dogs in an attempt to justify PRC’s warrantless claim to an island they’ve never owned in modern history.

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I think almost every independence movement is a bit like a Rorschach Test; people see in them what they want (or can).

In this discussion here you learn basically almost nothing about Taiwan, its history, or why and what its people want, but you sure learn a lot about the political worldviews of everyone who participated. Your comment here is an excellent example of that, even better than the one I replied to first.

And btw, I don’t justify any claim. I’d rather support Taiwans de jure sovereignty (over the island, not over all of that 😅) if that’s what its population want. And I doubt that this CCTV documentary is gonna change my mind, but still plan to watch it cuz I’m still trying to understand why most Chinese propaganda is so lame 😂

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All propaganda is not good, but I’d say that Chinese-brand propaganda is fierce. I make an attempt to get news from sources outside the States because our propaganda is pretty lame as well. I should learn more about Taiwan history, though. Can anyone recommend a good book about it?

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Countries don’t OWN their land, they are sovereign over their territory. Quite literally no government of China EVER owned Taiwan, but all governments, including this one, have been sovereign over Taiwan. It’s just that Taiwan was illegally occupied by separatists and European imperial powers. The sovereignty does not inhere to the party in charge any more than the Democratic party can own Alabama or the Republican party can own the Florida Keys.

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