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I wonder how long until all those people always glorifying atomic energie come here…

Usually this community is full of them even in threads only talking about renewables.

This is one of the main problems with atomic energy that we haven’t got any idea how to solve - Germany got pretty much all of their uranium from Russia - France from an unstable country like Niger - it’s just not something you can extract easily in countries that care about their citizens so it’ll always come from a shitty place.

I wonder how the Venn diagram looks between those people that defend atomic everywhere and the people telling you all about how bad electric cars are because of their batteries…

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I wonder how long until all those people always glorifying atomic energie come here…

You mean the realists who want to eliminate carbon emissions with more than wishful thinking? Or the people trying to educate against decades of the oil and gas corporations’ anti-nuclear propaganda and fearmongering?

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Ah yes nuclear energy only takes 20 years to build a new reactor. Ah the most expensive form of energy generation let’s invest in that.

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Ah yes, much better to keep building new coal or gas plants instead. “Fuck the planet, we’re trying to save a dime.”

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This is one of the main problems with atomic energy that we haven’t got any idea how to use

Doesn’t this apply to almost any form of power generation? Fossil fuels and raw materials for nuclear fuels are often imported from undemocratic or unstable countries. As are many of the raw materials required for renewable power generation and storage.

Using this as an argument againt nuclear power is as intellectually dishonest as the people using it as an argument against electric cars.

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Or people citing rain forest balsa wood in wind turbine blades as their greatest concern while being totally fine with lignite coal.

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Usually this community is full of them even in threads only talking about renewables.

I think you have to mention Germany and energy in the title to summon them.

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it’s just not something you can extract easily in countries that care about their citizens so it’ll always come from a shitty place

First two countries for known reserves are Australia and Canada, together they hold around 40% of all the uranium reserves of the planet. Uranium could also be extracted from seawater, obviously at a much higher price.

It’s just that it’s easier to extract it where exploitation rights for land is cheap. But that’s unfortunately also true for many materials we need for renewables

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Yeah but even though we’re using the cheapest Uranium possible atomic power is STILL much more expensive than renewables - I wonder how insane the prices would be if you only took Uranium from good sources.

Also those costs almost never include the cost of securing the waste for thousands of years since you can’t just leave the waste laying around out of fear of dirty bombs.

Sure it looks decent in a vacuum but with all the factors playing into it from Uranium being a limited resource that costs a lot to the waste-management it’s just much more expensive than just spending the money you’d need to buy one plant on renewables and energy-storages that are also ready to go a lot faster…

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the price of atomic energy is like 10% coupled to the price of uranium. the equipment, the salaries, the security measures, all those things are so much more expensive compared to the fuel.

people rarely grasp what 4 magnitudes of energy density increase mean.

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