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Goddammit, I do NOT want us to be propping up a war in Ukraine and fighting an actual war with China.

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Nobody wants to have to defend free and sovereign nations such as Ukraine and Taiwan from agressive expansionist foreign powers like China and Russia. But here we are.

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I wonder if we’d drop Ukraine if WWIII was starting. On the one hand, it’s WWIII, on the other hand maybe Russia is still a likely enemy?

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Yeah, “WWIII but no nukes yet” discussions are always a little bit iffy. Let’s try and keep a lid on things, guys.

It seems like the actual NATO doctrine is to try and dip back out of a full-scale war before things get radioactive, in the already bad scenario that it happens, and the conventional military is basically there to provide certainty that there’s no benefit to escalating that far in the first place.

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everyone in the northern hemisphere will be dead from famine in a year or two.

Don’t underestimate my will to grow and eat nothing but potatos. If I don’t die to bombs I’m making it through that shit.

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I assume NATO would officially swoop in and bomb the everliving fuck out of Russia’s fleet and fortified positions before diverting their attention elsewhere. Basically giving Ukraine a much easier path forward.

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Oh yeah, they could just clean up Russia directly if war was starting anyway. I think you’re right.

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in what world would anyone side with the US over china and russia

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I’d expect US vassals like Canada, Japan and the EU to side with the US.

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