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Marxists are hardly alone in arguing from a conclusion. That pretty much describes all of economics and most of political science. Liberal economics in particular could easily be retitled Just So Stories, With Jargon.

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learning about the various flaws that absolutely exist in Marxism

Marxists are more aware of these flaws than you, lol. Learn what scientific socialism is and how it connects to developing and refining theory.

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Liberal economists do exactly the same thing and if you can’t see it, it’s the water you’re swimming in.

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Bro I’m completing a dissertation in political economy and I hate myself for it. The world is an easy place if you assume the gospel drivel spewed in orthodox econ departments is all there is. How about you go read up on the Cambridge Capital debate and then tell me how robust a “science” economics is. While you’re at it eat a crayon, maybe you’ll shit out a more intelligent comment next time.

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I’m not talking about the inherent limitations of social science, I’m responding to your absurd attitude that somehow formal education makes your ideas inherently superior/above critique, and I named a specific example of theoretical failure of orthodox economics as an example of the entire project being basically woo. Lots of aristotelean scholastics wrote the dumbest shit imaginable about physics for a thousand years, and their thought was funded, reproduced, and taught as authoritative by formal education the entire time; progress was only made when criticism came from outside the academy and overcame it. Much like then, our contemporary “Political Science” and “Economics” departments are nearly completely captured by a dead-end ideology/research project, but still have the support of the ruling class so they keep cranking along misinforming more and more students every year. You claiming advanced understanding of the matter is the equivalent of an Aristotelean physicist or Lamarkian biologist sticking their nose up and saying learning outside of the academy is somehow less than their own. That’s worse than just being wrong, it’s wrong and using elitism to refuse to recognize it. The Black Panthers went into the poorest and least educated communities in America, and they taught people Marxist theory while they taught them to read. What do you think well to do Nixon Republicans had to say about their education? That’s where you stand right now looking down on folks engaging in education outside of the academy itself.

Also, lots of Marxists are tired of dumb liberals reciting the same garbage authoritatively while never questioning basic undercurrents of their own ideological world view. So sorry they have reached a conclusion and don’t want to rehash baby’s first socialism with every shmuck who thinks their poli-sci degree makes them an expert.

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Waver and flounder and try to browbeat, why not drop your monocle into your glass while you’re at it. You got nothing

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Liberal thinks the shitty neoclassical economics taught in 99% of universities is economics itself. Imagine my surprise.

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Slept through class, huh?

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The number of times where it becomes clear that a Marxist is arguing from a conclusion is too high to be ignored.

That’s just how Marxism is, he claimed that our course of economic history is the only way it could have gone with a single data point then concluded that the current system (in 1850) would imminently collapse.

I don’t know why anyone lends credence to his theories

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Or some of us might have multiple sociology degrees and/or are in academia. But I’m sure if they wrote comments about Marx (or Weber or Gramsci or Veblen etc) you’d just assume they got it from wikipedia anyway. Though I’m not sure why that’s a bad thing. It’s not like it makes a difference whether someone read primary texts online or overpaid at the college bookstore. It’s the same information. The fact that anyone has a desire to learn, better themselves, and then try to use that knowledge is admirable and a service to society at large. More people should try it.

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Watch out people we got an econ 101 grad amongst us, if we’re not careful he’ll pull out his Mas Colell textbook and start babbling about maximizing utility curves and general equilibrium

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political science degree

Oh man I would never admit that unforced.

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poli sci is literally nothing. I have a background in social and hard science, from either point of view it’s bullshit.

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The DPRK is socialist and not a hereditary autocracy. It has been the consistent direction of the head of the executive branch to diffuse authority to other offices, but nearly everything you have ever heard about this country was a lie.

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Nah you have someone with a political science degree and a minor in econ. I have talked to many people who seem to have no formal education in the listed fields and refer back to things like breadtube as a valid source.

So the two most “priesthood class of capital” useless degrees lol.

Read Capital, the economics you’ve learned still haven’t grappled with it successfully.

Edit: you claim to have read Marx. Please, tell me how automation connects to the tendency of the rate of profit to drop according to Marx. It’s one of the core parts of his analysis so it should be easy to remember.

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Nah you have someone with a political science degree and a minor in econ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWxn4mrNJxQ

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you have someone with a political science degree and a minor in econ

Not even trying to dunk, just realize that this is not impressive, and certainly not authoritative. When someone questions your expertise the two acceptable responses are:

  1. Yes, I am an actual expert, with extensive schooling and/or relevant work experience.
  2. I’m not claiming to be an expert, but here’s where I’m getting my information, where are you getting yours?
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political science degree

Imagine boasting about having a degree in modern-day phrenology.

You see, this graph shows the Slavic brainpan cannot comprehend liberal institutions …

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