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They make $1.4B per day. This is basically just a cheap subscription for them
For comparison, if you made $365,000 per year this would be the same as you paying 7 cents per day in a fine, or $25 per year.
If a fine is less than the profit it is legal and the cost of doing business.
Exactly right. Facebook will factor this in as am expected cost of doing business (if they didnโt already) and their stock will go up. This isnโt a penalty, this is just like paying a bribe. In the end, both are just lining the pockets of officials more interested in appearing to do something for the next news cycle so they can get re-elected.
Did you mean $365,000,000? Or did you get confused by the โ.โ? Cause thatโs used as a comma for numbers in a lot of European countries, so itโs $100k per day, not $100.
Also, itโd be exactly 10 cents per day, since $365k per year would be $1k per day, which 100 is 10% of.
No, they meant 100k is 0.0071428571429% of 1.4b, and 26 is the same percent of 365k. Basically, if you made 365k a year and had an equal percentage fine, it would come out to less than 7 cents per day.
From the article:
$100,000 per day for a country with ~5.4 million people is a lot. If even 20 percent used Facebook regularly, then that would still be 10 cents per user per day. Itโs unlikely that Meta is generating so much profit per user - every day.
This is a reasonable observation and I wonder what Meta would do once one of their services becomes unprofitable in a specific country. Anyway if you add Instagram and WhatsApp to the math, maybe they would still generate profits from the Norwegian userbase
I wonder if this is a big amount for Norwayโs government. After 3 years youโve got 100 million dollars. Not huge but you could build a nice hospital or something with that.
Not really, they have the worldโs biggest sovereign wealth fund. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_Pension_Fund_of_Norway
I donโt know where youโre getting that number but itโs definitely wrong. Their most profitable year so far was 2021, and they made $39.4 billion for the entire year. Source
So assuming things havenโt changed too much for them, this is about 1%. Barely noticeable.
I think the 2 points the article makes about that are pretty valid though. Itโs most probably more than Facebookโs revenue in this single country plus itโs just the beginning.
I would love for the EU to just go all-out hardcore privacy protection and fine GAFAM et al. into fucking oblivion for not complying. If they shut down services, thatโs probably for the better, although it will be a rough awakening for most people (probably including myself)
Companies operate at a loss in certain markets all the time in order to keep competition out. Even if theyโre not profitable in Norway, they donโt want a Norwegian social network muscling in on their territory.
โCompetition is for losers.โ - Peter Thiel, first investor in Facebook and mentor of Mark Zuckerberg
Where are you getting that number? Their financial reports claim about 120 billion a year in revenue. Or 0.4 billion per day.
Thatโs for about 3.5 billion users. Letโs say Norwegians, being quite rich, generate ten times the daily average, or about $1 per day. I donโt know how accurate it is, but this page claims about 80% of Norwegians use Facebook. With 5.5 million people, that would put their daily revenue for Norway at about 4 million. So this fine would equate to about 2.5% of their revenue. With a net profit of about 25% (it has varied from 20-30 the last few years) thatโs about 10% of their profits.
Itโs not exactly going to put them out of business, but it doesnโt seem too bad, proportionally, even with the numbers as generous as possible to your case. If India did the same (just adjusting 100k for population size) itโd be 25 million a day, or ten billion a year.
Is there any post about some fine for a tech company where this isnโt the top comment?
Hope he didnโt write $100 Americans just refuse to acknowledge the existence of other cultures and canโt be bothered to try to learn to understand them.
The presence of multiple zeros after the decimal point is the big clue you know.
I see, but Iโve never encountered that in my life.
Iโm not American, Iโm from Australia and watch a lot of overseas content. I guess I just didnโt encounter it then.
Not really.
Norway has 5,391,369 people, and assuming ~40% use facebook, thatโs 2 million people that use facebook. 36.5 million dollars per year of fines mean that itโs 18 dollars per user per year.
Facebook has 2 billion users worldwide, and has a revenue of 33 billion every year. If all of those 2 billion users fined facebook for 18 dollars per year, thatโs their whole revenue gone.
It just doesnโt have that much effect right now because itโs only norway doing it.