People in the west should stop this madness …hek whom am I kidding ,they won’t .

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Dumb take. Putin holds far more power as an individual within his country than any western head of state does - they are tools of the capitalist class more than anything else. Yes, neither Putin nor Western leaders care about working class people, but that doesn’t make them identical.

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You are missing a very important detail, which is that if they are tools of the capitalist class, it’s the capitalists making decisions and the amount of “power” individual politicians within that apparatus have is essentially a mundane question of administrative structure. Putin the capitalist puppet is no more or less dangerous than a hypothetical quadrivium of capitalists puppets would if they collectively had his power.

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Putin holds far more power as an individual within his country than any western head of state does

This is the dumbest thing I have ever read.

they are tools of the capitalist class more than anything else. Yes, neither Putin nor Western leaders care about working class people, but that doesn’t make them identical…

Yes it does lol. My dude you are so close…

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Why? The Western political system is more resilient and powerful, but that means that the individual people who are part of that system (including the heads of state) have less power over that system they can exert by themselves.

Is the Western capitalist class more powerful? Yes. Are the political systems that function for their benefit more powerful? Also yes. But are the individuals who temporarily serve as heads of state more powerful within that system? Resoundingly no.

And yeah, the relationship between the Russian capital class and that of the Western capital class and the respective workers under their thumb is identical, but that doesn’t mean that the relationship they have with the political leaders is identical. In the West politicians are arguably more like well paid employees of the capitalists, while in Putin’s case there’s a more equal footing.

Does that make a difference to the people at the bottom? No. Does it make those situations identical? Also no.

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Is the Western capitalist class more powerful? Yes.

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