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You’re mistaken, the state is a collection of proletariat meaning you are a part of the state. You may not be the whole state but it is your land as it is everyone elses

Atleast as far as I understand it

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Thank you for the correction sharkfucker420

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Always happy to help 👍

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I’ve heard same said about liberal democracy too. “State is made up of us voting citizens” etc etc. Feels as hollow

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The difference is that liberal democracy is underpinned on the idea that being able to elect a bourgeoise representative is all you need to be fully involved, whereas a socialist system must recognize that collective ownership of a state by the people requires the people have power over everything that happens in that state, law, economics, religion, war, everything. Socialist states exist with this as an ideal and only walk back from this goal with good cause, as opposed to starting with nothing, adding the opportunity to choose bourgeoise representation out of a small pool every once in a while, and calling it good.

e: added text in italics for clarity

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Making laws about what people think is called tyranny, not socialism.

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The difference is that liberal democracy actually respects individuality

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As long as you are a happy conformist wage slave sure.

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But where can we install another electoral college to guarantee govt control over masses wants

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If everyone owns something no one does

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How much do you and the average person actually own under capitalism

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Just because it sounds cool, it doesnt make it real yk. 😅

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Did you just watch a Brad Bird movie

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