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80 points

As someone on the receiving end of this, it may not pan out for you. I was verbally told I was getting a raise, then my paychecks showed I got a larger raise. I thought nothing of it and enjoyed the extra money, thinking of myself as a hard worker who was worth the extra.

Months later, someone noticed the discrepancy. Queue the company informing me that the overpayment will be taken in one lump sum from my next paycheck, which would have made me unable to make rent. I convinced them to spread the repayment across as many checks as they had overpaid, but that was a pretty miserable experience to say the least.

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98 points

Can’t really happen here, since the contract had the twisted numbers as well. So they have that amount in writing with signatures and all.

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I think in some cases you could get fucked if it can be shown that it’s an obvious mistake

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I mean, if you switch this around so it’s the business paying less then people here would be going irate if the business just said “well we are paying what the contract states”. I get it, people hate work. But that doesn’t mean you get to screw your employer.

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82 points

I’m pretty sure that would have been illegal where I live. Paying someone the same amount each month is an implicit contract. You can’t just suddenly go “whoops” and not pay for a month.

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Depends on what’s in the contract, black on white. If the contract says x amount and they pay you y (and you don’t speak up), they can get that money back as it was a bookkeeping error.

If the contract says the higher amount then they can’t take it back, written contract always wins over verbal.

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Fair, but a contract can’t overrule actual laws. I’m not sure what exactly those are or where OP lives but if the law says he’d be entitled to that money then a contract couldn’t change anything.

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Not where I live they can’t. See my other comment. If your employer gives you money, it’s yours, period.

I see this idea a lot online. Guess either employees don’t understand their rights or the employers are equally ignorant, both VERY likely.

And no, it’s unlikely the employer knows better and is fucking around. The magic words are “labor” and “board”, who will find in favor of the employee and throw a fucking to the employer. We handled payroll for quite a few shady employers, but none of them were dumb enough to play around with the money.

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6 points

In California at least, they’re allowed to ask, but I don’t think they’re allowed to require.

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You in America? If so, you got screwed and need to call your state labor board.

At least in Florida, they cannot pull that shit. If they put it in your bank account, it’s yours. End. Think of all the scams people could pull if they could drop money in your account and then demand it back.

SOURCE: Worked for a payroll firm. If we overpaid someone, or paid the wrong person/account, too damned bad, all we could do was ask nicely for it to be returned.

CAVEAT: The bank can sure as hell pull your funds if it’s their mistake.

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This is likely state dependent. I’ve seen them pull back funds from people in MD. That was some years ago now though so that may not still be possible there.

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What they can do and what is legal aren’t always the same.

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They might not pull funds, but they can absolutely deduct that money from future checks.

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Meanwhile if they verbally promise you a raise and don’t give it to you there’s jack shit you can do because verbal agreements aren’t enforcable when it’s convenient for them.

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Which is sane. So anyway…

Sorry, gotta go. That’s my employer calling to verbally offer me a raise.

(Over here laughing imagining all the people suing because, “I swear he offered me a raise! Nah, for real!”)

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In many countries verbal contracts can still be binding under certain circumstances. Just hard to prove, so yeah, get it in writing or it doesn’t mean much

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(Should be “cue the company” not queue)

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*cue

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Verbal doesn’t mean shit, obviously they rolled it back.

Op has a written contract.

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It’s your fault for blowing all the money.

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