Everyone needs to see Rammstein live at least once in their lives.
How about we don’t encourage a rapist instead?
Edit: Can’t believe my comment is in the negative right now… Is the majority around here rape apologists or something?
We aren’t rapist apologists. But the investigation was dropped due to a lack of evidence. What else can people do to proof their innocence to people like you?
Right, because it’s easy to prove you’ve been raped by a rich guy years later 👍
Innocent until proven guilty? If I said you raped me, are you a rapist now?
The investigation was dropped because of lack of evidence.
Man, I’ve work as a roadie on their show, there was maybe 20 girls, bearly 18, hand picked by some security dude right in front of the stage, the whole group was moved to backstage as soon as the show ended, they’re famous for their post show orgies, it’s fucking gross, some were really young and he’s 60… I loved Rammstein, but now it feels wrong. Maybe he hasn’t been convicted due to lack of evidence (also remember he has money and isn’t your regular joe), but defending a man fucking girls when he could be their grand pa is also fucking gross.
What kind of evidence could the victims bring to court years later exactly? You think they come out to become famous or something?
The fact that similar accusations aren’t taken seriously (especially when talking about famous people) is exactly what led to the metoo movement.
Apparently, Lemmy doesn’t believe the man who writes misogynistic lyrics can be sexist. It’s the same all over the internet. Quoting Reddit users:
a) Rammstein’s lyrics can be rather extreme, as they often include rape, incest, death, sex tourism, necrophilia, etc etc. But are they sexist? No I don’t think so.
b) A lot of their songs are out of someone’s perspective. Like Ausländer can be perceived as a sexist song written from a perspective a dude (Till lol) shagging his way around the world and seducing local populace with his foreign allure and hilariously low effort “knowledge of the local language”. […] On the other hand what the band actually intended to do is criticize colonialism.
One does not need to believe the sexual allegations to see that, still, something’s fishy, especially about the lead singer. The lyrics, the orgies, etc. For years, I have disliked songs and interviews because of this, but it all gets the “It’s satire” or “It’s symbolism” pass.
There’s one thing that I miss about downloading music and that’s knowing that in some cases it’s good the artist isn’t getting any money. Admittedly I’m happier knowing that most of the artists I listen to get paid now that I stream. I know there’s a huge discussion about how artists don’t get paid enough and I agree but that’s not what I’m talking about.
Like if I downloaded their music, uploaded as little as I possibly could, then listen to it alone and don’t share, talk about or popularize their work in any way, am I supporting an artist accused of rape? It’s kind of the same argument as ‘if a tree falls in the woods, does it make a sound’ or ‘death of the artist.’ Now to be frank, there are bands/artists that I don’t listen to on streaming services because I know they will benefit from me listening. Rammstien is one of them.
Nope. That’s pretty save to say. Just the leagal chareges are dropped. It is proven that the castings happend and sex happend. How much the women knew what they are casted for may differ from each instance and how much they felt presured.
I’ve seen them twice, so I can average out one person who hasn’t seen them.
I had tickets and then COVID happened, then Brexit happened and they aren’t coming to the UK anymore. :(
I couldn’t find anything from Rammstein, but take this as an example and imagine the rest
