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Yea there’s no consensus that the ‘evidence’ produced is reliable. At first IDF showed the hatch to a water cistern and said it was the hatch to the network of tunnels. This new photo could just be a hole in the ground. The tour through the MRI room and truck loaded with weapons could be easily planted. Independent investigations like Forensic Architecture have found discrepancies and raised questions over the legitimacy of IDFs claims. Al Jazeera has reported that IDF had misreported facts to build a narrative.

US intelligence agrees that Hamas was operating out of the hospital, but there not much else backing up these claims right now.

**edited to remove a bad source

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"Cobb-Smith has joined with the most politicized anti-Israel NGOs in pushing false or unsubstantiated accusations of Israeli violations of the laws of war […] In particular, he circulated false claims (“there was no tactical reason; there was no reasonable use of that weapon system”) as well as claims (later discredited) that the IDF used white phosphorous “in an illegal manner.” Similarly, he has been involved with the campaigns of the anti-Israel NGO known as Forensic Architecture.

Oh okey, I understand better what you mean by “not much to back those claims”

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I did some quick searches on him and saw he was with amnesty international. This didn’t come up for me. I’ll remove him as a reference. Appreciate the insight to him.

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Except there’s very credible evidence Israel uses WP illegally. There’s literally photos of it available online. Is that the IDF calling him biased or what?

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https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/ngo-monitor-bias/

Overall, we rate the NGO Monitor Right biased based on support for the right-wing Israeli government. We also rate them Mixed for factual reporting based on the consistent promotion of pro-Israeli propaganda

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“IDF says…”

Of course. What reason would they have to lie? /s

Maybe we should wait until there’s been a more neutral investigation before deciding it’s one hundred percent true.

What I never understand about major news stories is that so many people take everything they see at face value and then consider it indisputable fact. When there’s an international war going on, no one thinks that just maybe we’re only getting a fraction of reality communicated to us? That it must be the worst game of telephone in terms of accuracy? But then if someone even suggests that maybe there’s more to the story, they’re conspiracy theorists or they get told what “side” they’re on.

We should all be at least somewhat discerning. There’s so many different actors with interests in this war. We have no idea what else could be going on that we will never, ever hear about, nor how much spin is being put on the stuff we do hear about.

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Do you really think only you had this thought? Don’t you think this is exactly what I think about your opinions? And telling this in my face literally does nothing because I am just as convinced that you gobble up Al-Jazeera/Hamas propaganda as, supposedly, I am gobbling up Israeli propaganda?

Come down to Earth buddy

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You are wildly bad faith all over the comments, wow.

You went too “down to earth” and need to pull your head outta sand or whatever dark hole you have it shoved into.

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I mean independently verified. The idf has a history of lying and some of the stuff mentioned in that article has already been disproven.

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What’s your explanation for the video in the article? AI-generated? Doctor’s fire exit? Aliens?

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Wow, a tunnel near a hospital. There’s tunnels under my university too. Should the idf siege it?What I’m asking for is clear evidence that Hamas was using the hospital as a command center. I still haven’t seen any of that.

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