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Removing all forms of added sugar would probably make everyone feel better. Even minimizing natural sugar intake.

Sugar is terrible, there’s no doubt about it. Artificial or otherwise.

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there’s little research to show sugar dangers to be more than correlation

fat people eat a lot of sugar. fat people also eat a lot. eating a lot is how you get fat, drinking calories just happens to be a fast track to getting fat. diet soda happens to be physiologically like drinking water. fat people drink diet instead of sugar coke thats already 200-1000 calories of their day GONE with very very minimal change.

then those fat people supplement the lost sugars with more food and they gain weight. then you get studies showing GUYS DIET SODA CAUSES WEIGHT GAIN (in fat people)

but no its not the sugar its not the macros its YOU eating too much and you can eat less to lose weight that’s just simple science. body types, “nuance”, “bad metabolism”. none of that shits real it all stems from shitty dietary choices and lack of muscle.

all of this to say unless theres medical issues or medical intervention your weight and body type is 100% in your control should you choose to take control

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How about all the research that shows sugar is addictive AF

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self control is a thing everything is addictive in some facet refined sugars just happens to trigger a stronger dopamine response than other things.

but in the end of the day self control is necessary nobody can control you except you. so dont blame sugars addicitiveness for being overweight if you are. its solely an overeating issue.

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Of course sugar is addictive as fuck - you would literally die without it.

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Your lemon curd is full of thickener (egg yolk) and sugar (honey) too.

What thickener did they use? Soy lecithin? That’s the same thickener as found in your egg yolks.

What sugar? Just regular sugar? That has a similar glycemic index as honey.

Concentrated lemon juice is just lemon juice without the water. Was there also water in the recipe?

Sounds like your stomach trouble was due to something else. I’m not saying the lemon curd you bought was good quality, but it probably wasn’t much different than what you make. And those scary ingredients are the same as the ones that you already use.

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Probably the “more than a few” they ate.

Overconsumption leads to health issues? More at 9.

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Absolutely nothing wrong with a diet high in fruit and veg, both of which contain significant amounts of sugar.

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Fruits make me just as sick as any other source of sugar. Fruit is just candy in a natural wrapper.

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You are correct, the caveat “added sugar” or added sweetener in this case is the important bit.

Fructose doesn’t have the same health effects of sucrose for some reason and the sugar you eat in fruit and veg come with fiber which helps keep our blood sugar from spiking.

I was shocked to learn that dates, which are basically candy, have a pretty reasonable glycemic index.

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Fructose doesn’t have the same health effects of sucrose for some reason

That’s because fructolysis has a slightly different pathway and fate as compared to glycolysis, which results in far lower efficiency of conversion. Meaning glucose gets converted into more calories than fructose does.

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Except that guy wrote:

Even minimizing natural sugar intake.

Which precludes fruit and a good deal of veg.

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There’s nothing inherently bad about sugar. It’s just energy. If you intake more energy than you burn it’s getting stored for future use (you get fat). The same goes for almost anything “unhealthy”. Manage your energy intake and almost nothing is unhealthy.

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The biggest question in this thread, who would downvote this?

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Probably people who are a bit sketch about the “even natural sugars” bit, since that removes a TON of otherwise healthy food options. Minimize added sugar, sure.

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There’s no research that indicates the currently used artificial sweeteners are bad for you.

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I can’t tell what this is supposed to convey. They asked for a study. You give a bare url to an abstract with the quote

there is no clear consensus on whether non-sugar sweeteners are effective for long-term weight loss or maintenance, or if they are linked to other long-term health effects at intakes within the ADI.

Are you agreeing with the post you are replying to?

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Theres mixed analysis over the decades, actually, and different groups have different conclusions.

https://www.everydayhealth.com/diet-nutrition/sweet-n-low-dangers-still-exist/

Overall, id say limiting added sugars (natural or artificial) is rpobably better for your health long term

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I want to be super clear if anyone finds this and thinks maybe…

No, there is no evidence of artificial sweeteners causing harm. There is no conspiracy, and after many many studies over decades, nothing has been found. If there had been, then the artificial sweeteners would have been banned like the ones you’ve never heard of because we all banned them for causing problems.

If you drink regular soda today, you should absolutely look at replacing that with a diet varient without sugar. From everything we have learned over decades, it’s absolutely safe.

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Artificial sugars and sweeteners are, by and large, very different things. Aspartame isn’t a sugar of any sort.

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Eh, IIRC there’s research that if you eat incredible amounts it’ll likely be bad for you. But it’s a lot and the equivalent amount of sugar would be way way worse.

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Eh, IIRC there’s research that if you eat incredible amounts it’ll likely be bad for you. But it’s a lot and the equivalent amount of sugar would be way way worse.

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Drinking too much water can kill you, too

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