Hamas has called for elections numerous times in the last decades. Israel and the US’s client government in the west bank, the Palestinian authority, refuses because they recognize that they will lose. Hamas is at no fault. As a resistance organization they are of the utmost moral standing. They engaged in symmetric military combat with the Israeli military in a textbook act of honorable military resistance when they had no obligation to. They display humaneness towards Israeli colonizers that defies all the brutality that Israel has visited upon the Palestinian people. This is a war against colonialism and imperialism. The belligerents in this war are the united states and Israel. What needs to happen is that they are defeated.

Saying “this section of the planet belongs to a specific race because they’re fractionally descended from one of the people that lived there a long time ago” is dumb as fuck. Modern people have 0 connection to Jews that long ago and most modern Israeli Jews aren’t actually ethnically similar to Jews thousands of years ago, most Israelis are primarily European descendant or other non-Palestinian descendant.

Modern Israelis are not the same group as the various historical groups referred to as “Jews”. Your logic is flawed.

The more reasonable and manageable timeframe might be closer to living generations currently in existence.

The hyperbole kind of misses its intended mark when itself misses the context of a call for context.

Derp a derp

hamas is a terrorist organization that does not encapsulate all Palestinians. That’d be like killing everyone in the US to dispose of the KKK.

You claim “total war is justified”. I say it’s pretty much never justified.

What kind of fragile sensibilities are you talking about here?

You’re granted citizenship automatically if you’re Jewish and you get a free trip to go there. Being Jewish grants one special privileges. The country is based entirely on ethnicity and was established with that as a core principle. If it’s not technically considered an ethnostate, it’s about the closest that a country can be one without being one in that case.

Might makes right, huh? I already know Palestine will be completely ethnically cleansed and then israel will move onto taking parts of Syria and other countries in their goal of lebensraum. That doesn’t mean it’s morally right.

I guess we’ll see in 50 years which nation still exists.

So if the Nazis won WWII, you’d support them? You’ve already made it clear you’re willing to support far-right genocidal ethnostates.

Israel hasn’t existed for a long ass time until the last century, shouldn’t that be evidence that Jewish people don’t belong there by your logic?

A recent claim is better. I care about the partitioning of the lands with the Sykes Picot Agreement, I don’t care about some inbred king of sandland did back in 147AD.

So those claims you talked about are just bullshit and it’s just about i want the land and am stronger so I just grab it. Fair enough you could have made it clear sooner so we wouldn’t all waste time pretending. While we are at it putin is also good for you isn’t it?

…Just make sure not to pay any attention to Netanyahu’s approval rating.

You apply this principle consistently and argue Hitler did nothing wrong because the German public supported his actions, right?

Hot take, but I think genocide is bad, personally.

Israel put a terrorist org that’s hostile to them in neighbouring territories they’re trying to ethnically cleanse via genocide and you can’t figure it why? I suppose critical thought was never fascists’ strong suit.

International funding went to Palestinians via aid orgs - not Hamas. That said, anything that did go to Hamas was because Israel put them in power - you don’t get to put terrorists in power, commit war crimes, then whine when the international community sends aid to the people you’re genociding. Israel is also a recipient of $3.8 billion dollars every year in US military support alone - that’s comparable to the total amount of internal aid sent to Palestine between 2014 and 2020.

The problem isn’t Israel funding Palestine - it’s with them funding a terrorist group to put them in power, removing the secular moderates that were in place already… You know - so they could justify the genocide they’ve been loudly telegraphing they want to commit.

You don’t get to play the victim on this one, Jitler.

Ok so you’re against Israel providing work permits to Palestinians?

I’m against apartheid states that requires people of ‘undesirable’ ethnicity get work permits.

And do you agree with this from the article?

Yes - Israel has done away with sporadic attacks and launched into a more rapid genocidal approach.

Imagine defending an apartheid state committing a genocide, pointing to the apartheid to say there’s not apartheid, and rapid escalation in indiscriminate killing to say there’s not genocide.