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My sister and I were discussing how to refer to our cousin’s child a while ago - my sister said we needed to use “she”, because that’s what our cousin uses, while I said we should use “they” because they’re too young to understand gender, or “it” because the baby is entirely dependent on its parents for everything, making it a mildly animate object, like a furby or tamagotchi.
My sister said I was absolutely not allowed to use “it”.

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“it” because the baby is entirely dependent on its parents for everything, making it a mildly animate object, like a furby or tamagotchi. My sister said I was absolutely not allowed to use “it”.

Wtf, don’t use it…

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Both times I’ve met the baby they’ve been passed from person to person to hold, and eventually got hungry and cried. Like a tamagotchi.

Babies are objects until they start crawling.

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I always try my best to recognize babies and young children as very intelligent and internally thorough and complete.

I’ve found that as I’ve gotten older, my internal world and emotions and what I want to say really hasn’t changed. The biggest thing that’s changed is that I’m more articulate, able to better say what I need or how I’m feeling. Meanwhile, when I was young, I lacked the vocabulary or social know-how to articulate what I was feeling, and that adults would just about never sit down and try to work with me to figure out what I’m feeling, and they’d try to invalidate how I’m feeling because they’re better at using words, or just generally don’t take me very seriously.

When I work with kids, especially ones that can’t speak, I’ve found a little bit of respect and empathy goes a very long way. They almost always want to communicate something to me and express autonomy. A toddler whose parents insisted was very ill-behaved was very, very nice to me because I recognized that what they wanted was to handle their food on their own, go to the bathroom without being escorted, stuff like that.

I get that you’re not talking about toddlers or young children, and I recognize that functionally they’re essentially on a permanent escort mission and can’t do anything on their own, and that’s what I believe you mean by “object”. I find that line of thinking to be, I dunno, maybe a bit disrespectful? Like, certainly I can see why it’s “correct” from some definitions, but it’s not something that I’d let enter my heart. To me, babies have deeply complicated and involved inner worlds. They’ve spent their entire life in this strange, alien world with massive people and brand new, unpleasant sensations. They can’t do anything on their own, but they think, and they want to communicate, and they’re so overjoyed when they can do something and get recognition from it.

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YOU CAN SAY THAT IN HEXBEAR, AND LEAVE THAT TOPIC FOR YOUR STRUGGLE SECESSIONS, BUT YOU SHALL NOT CALL THE BABY AN “IT” IN REAL LIFE… THAT IS A REDDITORISM AND A LIBERALISM OF THE HIGHEST OFFENSE AND I’M SURE THAT MAO WOULD’VE PERSONALLY STRUGGLE SECESSION-D YOU TO DEATH

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No they are not, they have functioning inner minds and are learning at extremely fast rates. They are sentient humans

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Please do not go around labeling children “it” unless you are playing tag

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