Last week, I turned on my PC, installed a Windows update, and rebooted to find Microsoft Edge automatically open with the Chrome tabs I was working on before the update. I don’t use Microsoft Edge regularly, and I have Google Chrome set as my default browser. Bleary-eyed at 9AM, it took me a moment to realize that Microsoft Edge had simply taken over where I’d left off in Chrome. I couldn’t believe my eyes.

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And then uninstall Chrome and use FF instead.

Based.

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Just want to mention Floorp, based on FF but with loads of additional options & appearance settings, also lightning-fast.

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it’s nice to see more gecko/firefox-based browsers

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Partially because we need stable forks for if/when Mozilla bites the dirt.

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Just want to mention Librewolf which is also FF based and has no telemetry out of the box, as well or ublock origin installed by default.

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Librewolf is also a great choice, it was my go-to before Floorp.

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And do this every time the system gets a major update because it puts all the crapware right back 🫣

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I’ve started using Ansible to apply windows settings and manage packages because of this. It’s a bit of work to setup the playbooks but I just run it occasionally on my windows hosts to keep Microsoft from reverting defaults.

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I’ve been a lifelong windows user (well and DOS and whatever cartridge I used with the C64/C128) but I think it’s just time to uninstall the OS instead.

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I would love to ditch windows but Linux desktop just isn’t ready

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Alternatively, buy or 🏴‍☠️KMSpico🏴‍☠️ yourself a pro license, and use group policy so it’s one and done. Microsoft has built in tools for almost all of this that don’t get rolled over by updates.


Getting tired of people claiming that it’s impossible to decrap Windows.

Obtuse? Sure! Features that shouldn’t be hidden behind an upgraded license? Hell fucking yes!

Impossible? Fuck no, hell no.

Learning basic Windows admin stuff, especially just the debloating/configuration things, is comparable in difficulty to switching to Linux.

Don’t get me wrong, I love Linux and less reliance on Microsoft is awesome, but 90% of complaints about Windows come from people who don’t know how to configure it, how to use the tools Microsoft offers to decrap it, and how to make it work for them. They’ll hit similar problems with most Linux distros as soon as you go deeper than basic “office suite and web browser” usage.

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Most GPOs just set registry settings. So theoretically you don’t even need pro, just to set the right registry values and write-protect them

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No need for KMS Pico anymore. There are better tools out there.

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you should use MAS instead of Pico
https://massgrave.dev
also, gpos are just templates for the registry, you can just look them up and apply manually (ehich is actually faster than finding anything in the official gpo editor), unless you’re a sysadmin and managing a whole fleet of machines (this is what gpo editor was actually made for) there’s no real need for it.

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I’m not saying it’s impossible. I’m just saying I shouldn’t have to decrap a piece of software I actually paid for. Over and over. Also, whenever they introduce some new crap it usually comes with new GPOs that also have to be enabled to remove it again. It’s like whack-a-mole.

Obtuse? Sure! Features that shouldn’t be hidden behind an upgraded license? Hell fucking yes!

This is what I was saying really. This crap should never have been there in the first place as it’s consumer-hostile.

Impossible? Fuck no, hell no.

I never said this :) I said it was annoying having to do it every time. Yeah I have pro. And I know what GPOs are. But really, you can’t expect an average consumer to do this. Also, it’s less work to just change things back manually every time than to figure all the GPOs needed. It’s really just super annoying that it happens in the first place. I expect software I buy to be made to help me, not work against me.

And I never mentioned Linux in my post even though I use it myself. I know this is not a suitable alternative for the majority.

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I think, my reason for switching stemmed from me getting bored if decrapifying windows and wanting to hsebsomething awesome to begin with

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if its comparable in difficulty, why not just switch to a system that does what you want on the first place?

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If you’ve got a few windows machines on your network and some sysadmin skills, you can run a Zentyal server to set up the GPOs. Syncs across your machines, and you can add a new one at any time that will also get de-shittified instantly.

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No. Install Linux and be done with the Microsoft bullshit forever

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Doesnt seem to work for me this doesnt so anything on my pc

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this is borked in win11, and got borked in win10 a month ago.
my secondary win10 machine that had been edge-free for at least 4 years, just got edge back and since it was also disabled by policy, throws an error on every boot, since apparently that piece of crap tries to autostart for whatever reason (even if autostart option is disabled, it just starts in background, does something and closes a few minutes later)

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