Probably not too unpopular here.

Standing waiting for the bus in my city with decent transit and I have 2 trucks rev their engines loudly past me, another one letting just clouds of pollution, watching people driving who aren’t paying attention and several people blowing cutting last second through a light. All in just 3 minutes by a small corner with light traffic.

Made me think how cars are inherently selfish. People don’t want to be around others (the fear aspect), so they drive their own bubble around. In addition to that, some go out of their way to make their cars even worse to people outside of them.

No wonder we can’t move away from them. They are a definition of our own culture

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America’s love affair with cars is tied to independence.

A car means you can travel anywhere in the contiguous 48 states — vacation, visit friends and family. It also means you can look for work and get a job in a wider area than relying on just living near work. This means better pay, and access to cheaper housing. A vehicle also helps to haul goods meaning it’s easier to become an independent contractor.

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Except in most other countries they have access to the same amount of independence, but don’t need a car to do the same thing.

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A train only takes you to so many train stops. A car can take you anywhere the roads can take you, and more of you drive around off road.

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This why public transit systems generally include buses. I will concede no-one uses buses for off-roading, but I would guess 90% of Americans do not drive their car off-road more than once or twice a year total, so I fail to see why that would be particularly relevant for a mass-market appeal.

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But then it has to be asked - are things so spread out because of the car? Could things have been more convenient and close by if we didn’t rely so heavily on the car? Would shopping centers like target and Walmart choose to be 5 miles outside of town if people didn’t have cars, or would they opt to be closer to where the people are, walkable and convenient.

That’s my point, that cars have made us more independent maybe, but at the sacrifice of our own convenience and community.

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“Most other countries”

Can you name even five?

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Not OP but here you go:

  1. Japan
  2. South Korea
  3. Hong Kong
  4. Taiwan
  5. Singapore
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The only reason it feels like independence is because people are trapped living on suburbs without any public transit. I have never lived on the suburbs, only in city centers with multiple alternatives to transportation (started to ride the bus alone at 10yo), but the couple of times visiting family on the suburbs I felt trapped waiting for someone who drive me anywhere.

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Yep having a reliable car is one of the biggest freedoms there is. Too bad their environmental footprint is high when so many are on the roads.

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