lemm.ee

-2 points

9 months ago

I’m pretty sure that you wouldn’t be capable of looking them in the eye and saying the same thing.

What, looking them in the eye and saying “Voting for millions of minorities in America to be oppressed and killed isn’t going to save anyone, but it sure as shit will kill and oppress millions of minorities”?

Sorry that I feel that “MORE people need to suffer” is not a reasonable reaction to suffering?

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Count042@lemmy.ml

2 points

9 months ago

Fuck you genocide apologist. You’ve made it clear you’re willing to sacrifice anyone for your own safety.

Which, come to think of it, is an extremely right wing fascist viewpoint.

What is your problem with Trump again? You don’t have a problem with genocide.

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-1 points

9 months ago

Fuck you genocide apologist. You’ve made it clear you’re willing to sacrifice anyone for your own safety.

As opposed to be willing to sacrifice everyone else out of… what, spite?

Which, come to think of it, is an extremely right wing fascist viewpoint.

Fascists don’t go to war because they’re scared, though they often are scared as well. Fascists go to war because human suffering is their highest goal.

You wanna explain to me what oppressing millions of minorities achieves, other than human suffering?

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Count042@lemmy.ml

2 points

9 months ago

You want to explain to me what your are not willing to sacrifice in the ‘name’ of democracy?

You’re okay with genocide.

You’re okay with separating kids from their families and throwing them in cages.

Seriously, what is it about Trump that you’re not willing to support?

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-2 points

9 months ago

“Why do you not want the worse candidate?”

Huh. I’m not really sure. I guess it must be because they’re fucking worse on every issue.

I’m not okay with genocide or ‘secure border’ insanity. But I also recognize that cutting the brakes and saying ‘all aboard the fascism express’ is not a fucking improvement.

You want to explain to me what your are not willing to sacrifice in the ‘name’ of democracy?

Please, tell me about your totally-not-fascist alternative to democracy. I’d love to hear it.

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Count042@lemmy.ml

1 point

9 months ago

Jesus you’re dumb (pun intended fully, though adding or leaving the comma was a tough decision.) And I say that, not because we disagree, but because of your complete misreading of that last bit you quote.

Democracy is a political system. Same as fascism (not that they are equal, but they are both political systems.) The reason the former is supposedly better, when paired with minority rights, is that it doesn’t lead to things like genocide.

You’re willing to throw away minority rights, and embrace genocide as an acceptable option for the facade of democracy that you love.

What you are supporting is not democracy. And you don’t love democracy, because you’re willing to throw the bits that separate democracy from mob rule out, to save the trappings of democracy. And you’re willing to tolerate genocide, the bad thing that supposedly fascism leads to and democracy doesn’t, to support, again, the trappings of democracy.

Secondly, I think that you are arguing in bad faith. I think you don’t actually believe Trump will end in fascism (though, I actually somewhat do).

Tell me, have you started purchasing weapons? Stockpiling food, water, medical supplies, and ammo? If not, why not? Resistance is the proper response to fascism, no? Lest something like, oh I don’t know, a genocide happens?

And this is all during a time where we’re not actually locked into Biden as a candidate. You’re all in for supporting Biden though he is actively participating in a genocide, and justifying it with ‘Trump’s worse!’ when we are in the time period where we could choose someone else!

It’s almost like you are arguing in bad faith and trying to prevent anyone else but Biden.

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9 months ago

The reason the former is supposedly better, when paired with minority rights, is that it doesn’t lead to things like genocide.

I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding of democracy.

Secondly, I think that you are arguing in bad faith. I think you don’t actually believe Trump will end in fascism (though, I actually somewhat do).

I absolutely think a second Trump administration is more likely than not to end American democracy and usher in an age of fascism, possibly worldwide.

Tell me, have you started purchasing weapons? Stockpiling food, water, medical supplies, and ammo? If not, why not? Resistance is the proper response to fascism, no? Lest something like, oh I don’t know, a genocide happens?

My guy, if fascism comes to America, I’m a mentally ill near-sighted cripple living significantly below the poverty line with an irregular income with few practical skills. If fascism comes to America, my options are pretty limited to “hide messages in my cane for la resistance” and “off myself”.

And separately, prepper delusions aren’t going to be much help.

And this is all during a time where we’re not actually locked into Biden as a candidate.

I don’t know how to address this level of delusion without going over a hundred years of American political history, which I suspect would be lost on you.

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