And you all told me the blue maga border bill that Republicans rejected was 4d chess.
I won’t rehash my opinions, they already been better said here, but I want to add I hate the phrase “close the border”. What the fuck does that mean, was it open, did the last one in forget to close the door?
From the article, he is considering taking action “to restrict migrants’ ability to seek asylum at the US-Mexico border if they crossed illegally” which has a lot more nuance and is important to the discussion. So this will specifically affect people who have a legitimate claim to asylum, the border was never “open” to any migrants without it (or a visa).
“Close the border” is ridiculous rhetoric which appeals to far too many of the electorate. Unfortunately, we need to change opinions on the ground before it’s no longer viable to use.
I think that’s why framing the debate is so important.
- This isn’t magically closing the border, this is just adding a new punishment for a small subset of people who cross illegally. Whether or not it will be effective is very debatable (if barbed wire doesn’t…)
- We should be talking more about the backlog in asylum cases, why aren’t we providing adequate funding for the courts to do their job.
- Why do we make asylum seekers wait so long to seek asylum and get authorization to work, how does this do anything but place a burden on support systems?
And so on. This isn’t about stopping immigration, it’s about punishing those who do. [Too] Many will still support that, but it’s a harder stance to take.
This is some straight up “the road to hell is paved with good intentions” shit right here.
“You need to change opinions in a democracy in order to succeed in changing policy in a democracy.”
Care to elaborate how that’s got anything to do with the road to hell being paved with good intentions?
Why though? It’s been proven and shown with many many video recordings that the so-called “border crisis” is completely made up. Yes, there are a lot of people at the border seeking asylum, but it’s not a horde of people a la World War Z forming a human tidal wave crashing over the Rio Grande.
The GOP has cried wolf so loudly and for so long that now no one believes them.
The US-Mexico border is 1,951 miles long. You can’t capture the issue with a video or photograph.
And no, it is not made up. See for yourself. Border encounters spiked hard, but dropped just as hard for January. No idea what’s going on there.
In any case, look at the yearly numbers for a better picture. For 2024 we’ll easily top 1-million extra migrants over 2021’s numbers. Yeah, we got a problem.
How are we to employ and house 3+ million souls? And that’s just for 2024. This will require a new major city worth of infrastructure, every year. Don’t we bitch about rent pricing around here? Hold onto your butts.
And go tell Denver it’s all made up. Dare ya.
https://www.denverpost.com/2024/02/21/denver-budget-cuts-migrant-crisis-recreation-center-hours/
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/12/us/denver-colorado-migrants.html
Since many migrants often work construction etc. Perhaps they could be employed to build it. Just a rational stab in the dark here.
And yes we bitch about rent etc. The key thing to understand, is that rent doesn’t really have a reason to cost as much as it does. The actual cost of upkeep etc for the buildings and property etc is a fraction of the rent. We’ve as a society demonized public housing, and largely refused to let any new be built. Or take care of the few that have properly. Because “reasons”.
I’ve always been staunchly against illegal immigration for that reason.We’re already in a cost of living crisis. The country is full. I wish the Democrats would realize that by continuing to allow illegal immigration, it lowers the cost of labor, and in turn and crushes the working class’ collective bargaining power. I’m not gonna go vote for an insurrectionist traitor that will cut Bezos’ tax bill to fix it though, but straight up, idk why people even want to come here anymore. 20 years ago, I get it, but now everything is expensive and you’re not going to make it Washing dishes and picking fruit.
The country is far from full. We have cities in a few states that dwarf the population of entire other states.
The cost of living crisis is manufactured. And we as a society could choose to end it tomorrow.
Perhaps the problem is the word crisis. If you reframe the conversation to say “there are increasing numbers of people attempting to cross the southern border”, the stats are pretty plain: https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/nationwide-encounters
I don’t know if this counts as a CRISIS!!! but it’s extremely easy to establish more and more people are crossing the border.
Im sure the democrats will stand up against this like they did when Trump did it. Lol what a joke.
This is clearly an attempt to get elected instead of the orange catastrophe.
Democrats moving to the right to try and get republican votes isn’t a great strategy. But they’ll get to blame the left if they lose, and keep moving to the right if they win. Billionaire donors stay winning.
Would you rather Trump fucking win?
If hoping Biden wins in a bad thing, who exactly do you think would be a better candidate Of those running for office this year?
In my humble POV I believe closing the border with the #1 business partner of the US isn’t a good idea.
It’s a power move. He closes it. The GOP cries because money. Their base’s heads explode.
I don’t know why you think that would matter to Biden. He already kept in place Trump era policies on Asylum seeking outside official entry points and even wants people to stay in the country they seek to escape until they have our permission to start their journey.
Looking back at it I think his stance on immigration was our warning that he was going to be the farthest right democratic president yet.
