look at the bright side. if you were talking to a sawy american lib they’d say the supreme court ruled foreign slavery isn’t wrong in the case of nestlé.
look we gotta save on letters and cutting w in half for a letter is silly
I mean, corporations and the government aren’t exactly the most honest entities around. China has used forced labor in the past so there should be some scrutiny, but we also have documented cases of the US using forced labor - I mean the constitution literally allows slavery - and nothing has been done about it. In fact politicians, businessmen, and citizens have repeatedly opposed changes to prison labor and the constitution because it would be “too expensive” and that the prisoners “deserve it” for their crimes. China doesn’t even say slavery is happening. The US does and defends it staunchly.
Shouldn’t the richest, most progressive, most democratic, most tolerant country on earth show who’s boss by punishing their human rights abusers? No. Of course not.
What happens there is a human catastrophe, comparable to what Nazi Germany did in the second world war.
feddit.de doing casual holocaust denial
The OP is horrible too.
Over 90% of Tibetan people still speak their ancestral language.
Wanna guess what that number is for indigenous people of Turtle Island?
spoiler
It is 8%. EIGHT FUCKING PERCENT. Fuck all of these cracker libs.
Americans and Canadians love to pretend that just because their genocides were more successful and the victims less numerous less numerous now that this somehow invalidates their struggle. One of the longest enduring struggles against colonialism is still alive today in spite of all efforts to exterminate them. Efforts that are ongoing.
the victims less numerous
North Amerika had about 10 million inhabitants before the settlers arrived and half a million natives left once the expansion of the US and Klanada was complete. Libs downplay this by saying that half of the 9.5 million were killed by plagues instead of being directly murdered, which is ignoring pox blankets, but you have to be creative when you want to deny actual genocides that leave behind material evidence.
Also worth mentioning that being displaced and robbed means that doing things like effectively quarantining become much harder, you are likely to be exposed to many other different diseases (native or otherwise) due to poor shelter, lack of medicine to prevent or treat infections, contact with different animal species and even human populations, etc., and really everything about the situation making the fact that there were any survivors basically accidental to the actual concern the colonizers had of making sure colonized land was “cleared” of native inhabitants.
for context, the 10 million inhabitants number is in dispute. some estimates for N. America alone go up towards 20 million or even 50 million (including Mexico).
Part One: Numbers from Nowhere
Mann first treats New England in the 17th century. He disagrees with the popular idea that European technologies were superior to those of Native Americans, using guns as a specific example. The Native Americans considered them little more than “noisemakers”, and concluded they were more difficult to aim than arrows. Prominent colonist John Smith of the southern Jamestown colony noted as an “awful truth” that a gun “could not shoot as far as an arrow could fly”. Moccasins were more comfortable and sturdy than the boots Europeans wore, and were preferred by most during that era because their padding offered a more silent approach to warfare. The Indian canoes could be paddled faster and were more maneuverable than any small European boats.
The contrasting approaches of “High Counters” and “Low Counters” among historians are discussed. Among the former, anthropologist Henry F. Dobyns estimated the number of pre-Columbian Native Americans as close to 100 million, while critics of the High Counters include David Henige, who wrote Numbers from Nowhere (1998).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1491:_New_Revelations_of_the_Americas_Before_Columbus
The population debate has often had ideological underpinnings. Low estimates were sometimes reflective of European notions of cultural and racial superiority. Historian Francis Jennings argued, “Scholarly wisdom long held that Indians were so inferior in mind and works that they could not possibly have created or sustained large populations.” In 1998, Africanist Historian David Henige said many population estimates are the result of arbitrary formulas applied from unreliable sources.
it’s worth noting that Tenoctitlan at around a quarter of a million inhabitants was likely the 4th largest city on earth at the time, with a population larger than current day Paris or Istanbul and had 4x the population of London. the spanish conquistadors purposely fouled it’s extremely innovative water and transportation system, making disease rampant.
While some of this could be misconstrued as a noble savage trope, they really did have many novel forms of agriculture that were far advanced beyond European practices in terms of sustaining populations at scale.
https://redsails.org/masses-elites-and-rebels/
Let us look at a specific example. A claim like “There’s cultural genocide of Uyghurs in Xinjiang” is simply unreal to most Westerners, close to pure gibberish. The words really refer to existing entities and geographies, but Westerners aren’t familiar with them. The actual content of the utterance as it spills out is no more complex or nuanced than “China Bad,” and the elementary mistakes people make when they write out statements of “solidarity” make that much clear. This is not a complaint that these people have not studied China enough — there’s no reason to expect them to study China, and retrospectively I think to some extent it was a mistake to personally have spent so much time trying to teach them. It’s instead an acknowledgment that they are eagerly wielding the accusation like a club, that they are in reality unconcerned with its truth-content, because it serves a social purpose.
I’ve been seeing the term “evergreen” used a lot recently. Is it new zoomer slang?
ngl i remember not really liking it, like i agree with it in general i just don’t really like the writing style, imo the False Witnesses essay from 2008 that they also have on the site gets the point across a lot better
Muslim countries are too biased to handle matters of Muslim persecution, apparently.
Even Turkey backed off. And they were all “rah rah our turkic brothers are being persecuted, this will not stand!!”. Even they decided that nothing of the sort was happening there.
Clearly Erdoğan is being paid off by Xi and those Muslim nations are actually all in league with those pesky evil reds!
I have actually read that somewhere. It went a little like this “Ofc those evil corrupt governments side with China, they are just as corrupt as the Chinese so of course they will betray their own people as long as it benefits them!”
which is deeply racist and also very ironic considering that officials across the EU have been more then ready to commit economic suicide after Washington asked them to.
