A Texas grandfather who was about to officiate a wedding in Nebraska errantly shot and wounded his own 12-year-old grandson when he tried to fire a gun in the air to get the attention of guests Saturday, according to authorities.

Odessa, Texas resident Michael Gardner, 62, is facing legal trouble after the Pietta 1860 snub nose revolver went off around 5 p.m. and accidentally struck the young boy in the shoulder at Hillside Events, Lancaster County Sheriff’s Office chief deputy Ben Houchin said during a press conference Monday.

The gun fired a blank round that had black powder in the casing that was glued together, the sheriff’s official said.

Before the attention-catching shot, guests were scattered around the Denton, Nebraska venue because the nuptials started late after someone forgot the wedding rings, Houchin explained.

“When he decided to cock back the hammer of this revolver it slipped and it shot his grandson in the left shoulder, causing an injury,” Houchin said, later adding. “What we believe is the glue injured the child.”

The injury was non-life threatening, though the boy still required hospitalization.

“We do not believe Michael intended to hurt his grandchild, but the act was not very smart,” Houchin said.

Gardner was still slapped with a child abuse charge because of the carelessness and the injury to the youngster, the chief deputy said. He surrendered to authorities Monday.

“It’s just kind of neglectful to take a gun out that has blanks and fire it amongst people,” he said.

100 points
*

Every gun owner thinks they’re a responsible gun owner.

permalink
report
reply
39 points

Well, to be fair, this guy was responsible… responsible for shooting his own grandson in the shoulder.

permalink
report
parent
reply
30 points

Yeah, as a gun owner, I try to avoid other gun owners. I went to have my my rifle scope bore sighted for the hunting season today. The guy at the counter picked up my rifle and flagged everyone in the damn store with it. I asked him to set it back in the case and left. I knew the gun was clear, and an employee cleared it when I came in, but you still don’t do that, period. Now that I think about it, the guy didn’t even clear it before picking it up and flagging everyone with it.

permalink
report
parent
reply
14 points

as a gun owner, I try to avoid other gun owners.

Same.

I once watched a range safety officer finish his shift, then step up to the firing line with his own handgun and promptly point the muzzle down the line at me while chambering the first round. I packed up and left, and haven’t been back.

permalink
report
parent
reply
9 points

It’s really crazy how cavalier folks are around firearms. It only takes one lapse in judgement or attention to drastically change lives forever.

permalink
report
parent
reply
71 points

Top three mythological creatures of American folklore:

  1. Bigfoot
  2. Mothman
  3. The Responsible Gun Owner
permalink
report
reply
12 points

I don’t think that’s fair. I’ve taken gun/hunting education classes from some volunteer instructors that seemed to me to be about the most serious, responsible people I’ve ever met.

permalink
report
parent
reply
8 points
*

Cool beans. Everyone considers themselves to be a “responsible gun owner” right up until the moment they shoot someone or themselves. It’s not a matter of if but when it’s going to happen.

Edit: Gun nuts and apologists line up here to get blocked.

permalink
report
parent
reply
14 points
*

I’m not a fan of guns myself, but this is quite a reach.

There are certainly many, MANY more irresponsible gun owners than responsible ones out there. But to say that there are none is just objectively false.

Do accidents happen? Yes, and they can happen to anyone. The difference is that a responsible owner’s accident isn’t going to end up with a person getting shot.

permalink
report
parent
reply
11 points

Excellent example of a “No True Scotsman” fallacy. Well done! Bit of a shame you’re trying to use it in an actual debate, but you do you.

permalink
report
parent
reply
8 points

That’s an absolutely absurd claim. The fraction of gun owners that ever shoot a human being is very close to zero.

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

This is like the claim that humans are addicted to oxygen.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

I have some friends who are adamant anti gun folk and I get that. It’s what the numbers say is ideal. I used to be pro gun (grew up in a very conservative cult), then anti gun, now I’m somewhere in the middle with “yeah it would be better to reduce the amount of guns but this is kind of where we’re at” and feel like a more pragmatic approach to getting us towards a gun free utopia (read: idealized society that can never be achieved) is probably best. Unfortunately it requires national cooperation and my country, uh, that is not what they do. On a personal level tho I somehow have become the person who gets to inherit all the guns in the family and except for the cool, inoperable civil war rifle we’ve had them all destroyed. That thing’s a show piece though. It’s a historical paperweight. It’s more dangerous as a club (even the bayonette is dull) than as a gun.

permalink
report
parent
reply
0 points

Made me think of the is this a pigeon meme but the person being replaced with an American gun nut and the image being a referee to gun violence

With the text: “is this a responsible gun owner”

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/is-this-a-pigeon

permalink
report
parent
reply
0 points

Actually, as someone who doesn’t have a strong stance either way, maybe I’ll just block you.

permalink
report
parent
reply
-1 points
*

Go ahead and block me too.

You’re saying all gun owners have incidents at some point, but that’s just availability bias. You don’t see stories on the news of the millions of gun owners who never have incidents.

I have also taken gun safety classes and never had an incident. My guns live in a safe and are only taken out when it is time to use them for sport, which hasn’t been in over a decade, actually.

No responsibile gun owner would use a gun firing to get the attention of a group, so the “all gun owners are responsible until there’s an incident” argument doesn’t really hold water here. The guy in the story broke several gun safety rules here. Rules that in my 10+ years of gun use I have never broken once.

Edit: not sure why this old post showed up in my feed. Oh well.

permalink
report
parent
reply
0 points

The key word there is “seemed”

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points

I just want to live long enough to enter a situation where I can legally kill someone with my 1911😔

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

Dafuq? You want to murder somebody?

Yes officer this guy right here…

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points

Guess sarcasm is hard to do over text😔

permalink
report
parent
reply
53 points

Which is he, one of the ‘good guys with a gun’, or one of the ‘bad guys with a gun’?

permalink
report
reply
24 points

Maybe his grandson was a ‘bad guy with a gun,’ in which case the grandfather is actually a hero.

permalink
report
parent
reply
15 points

I believe he falls in the category of one of the morons with a gun.

permalink
report
parent
reply
8 points

I’d like to see that venn diagram.

permalink
report
parent
reply
52 points

after the Pietta 1860 snub nose revolver went off around 5 p.m. and accidentally struck the young boy in the shoulder

“When he decided to cock back the hammer of this revolver it slipped and it shot his grandson in the left shoulder, causing an injury,”

I really hate when people go all passive voice about having shot someone. Did it just magically ‘go off’ or was dumbass fucking around with it while it was pointed at his grandson?

permalink
report
reply
11 points
*

“It was the gun that shot my grandson! The gun, I say!”

“Will you get rid of the gun that shot your grandson?”

When you pry it from my cold dead fingers, commie!

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points

Guns don’t shoot people, people shoot people. Do I have that catchphrase right?

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

You forgot to add “with guns” at the end.

permalink
report
parent
reply
9 points
*

It was an old school revolver where you have to manually cock back a spring loaded hammer. If you pull it back part way and then gently guide it back to normal position, the firing pin will just rest against the primer (the part of the round that sets off the gunpowder) and nothing will happen. If you pull it all the way back, the hammer locks in place until you pull the trigger, at which point the locking mechanism is unlocked and the hammer is freed to slam the pin into the primer, firing the round. The problem comes if you pull it most of the way back and then lose your grip. In that case, the hammer slams into the round just like if you fired it. Because of the physics involved with pulling back the hammer against a heavy spring (ironically a safety against kids pulling it back), the end of the gun usually gets levered upwards during the act of cocking. So, even if you started pointed directly at the ground, you often won’t be by the time the hammer locks in place. It’s your job as a gun owner to make sure that nothing you don’t mind shooting is in front of the gun at any point during that arc.

Add to this that it was a blank round, meaning there was just gunpowder but no bullet. Usually in a round, the gunpowder is trapped between a big slug of lead (the bullet) and the primer. In a blank, a thin layer of paper and glue is used in place of the bullet to keep the powder from falling out. A lot of people think blanks are 100% safe because there’s no bullet, but at very close range that tiny bit of glue still gets shot out with enough force to penetrate skin.

Thus, the guy is still an idiot for pointing the gun in an unsafe direction while cocking it, even if it’s a blank, but it’s easy to see how a 62yo could lose his grip on the hammer and have the gun go off accidentally in a direction he didn’t intend. And because it was a blank, he likely wasn’t following full gun discipline like he should have been. This doesn’t excuse his behavior (gun owners are literally taught to treat every weapon as loaded and deadly), but it might explain both his behavior and why the article chose the passive “it slipped and it shot” voice. Because basically, he was getting it ready to use as intended and it did magically “go off”, and it also is quite possible that it wasn’t pointed at the kid when grandpa started the task.

permalink
report
parent
reply
5 points

Yea, I wouldn’t say “magically go off” but this isn’t the gun misbehaving. It was a negligent discharge through improper operation. Its not a malfunction of the gun.

And to the people who don’t get how old revolvers operate, they can go off without the trigger pulled in a very specific manner that isn’t going to occur without someone actively getting the gun ready to fire. It’s the manual operation of the firing action.

Some newer revolvers will have a mechanism that doesn’t allow the hammer to swing all the way forward without the trigger being in the pulled position, but not all of them so.

And for an example of how dangerous blanks can be, the actor Jon-Erik Hexum during filming took a gun with a blank, held it to his temple and pulled the trigger. The force of the blank killed him.

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

Those “18xx single action revolver” replicas are dangerous as hell in the hands of an idiot. There are multiple ways to shoot oneself or someone else if the operator is being stupid.

permalink
report
parent
reply
4 points
*

It sounds like he cocked it before raising it, his thumb slipped off the hammer at the end of the action, and then —with his finger in the guard— he reflexively tightened his grip and discharged it.

Same thing can happen with semi-automatic pistols when you hit the slide release and all the weight slams forward: you accidentally pull the trigger to keep your grip, and then it discharges.

permalink
report
parent
reply
7 points

Which is exactly why you KEEP YOUR FUCKING FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER until you’re absolutely sure you want to fire.

permalink
report
parent
reply
37 points

Everyone is a Responsible Gun Owner™ until they aren’t.

permalink
report
reply
2 points

The pro-gun community works hard to ensure the “responsible” part remains 100% voluntary.

permalink
report
parent
reply
0 points

There is no such thing as a “responsible” gun owner in the US.

permalink
report
parent
reply
8 points

I inherited 3 guns from my father in law. They stay locked in the safe. Where am I irresponsible?

permalink
report
parent
reply
4 points

Are you legally required to do so? What penalties do you face if you don’t? Should we drop all DUI laws because you claim you’ll never drive drunk?

permalink
report
parent
reply
4 points

You missed my point. They all claim to have been responsible gun owners before they did the thing that made them irresponsible. Which pretty much cancels out any notion that there is such a thing.

permalink
report
parent
reply
0 points
Deleted by creator
permalink
report
parent
reply

Not The Onion

!nottheonion@lemmy.world

Create post

Welcome

We’re not The Onion! Not affiliated with them in any way! Not operated by them in any way! All the news here is real!

The Rules

Posts must be:

  1. Links to news stories from…
  2. …credible sources, with…
  3. …their original headlines, that…
  4. …would make people who see the headline think, “That has got to be a story from The Onion, America’s Finest News Source.”

Comments must abide by the server rules for Lemmy.world and generally abstain from trollish, bigoted, or otherwise disruptive behavior that makes this community less fun for everyone.

And that’s basically it!

Community stats

  • 6.9K

    Monthly active users

  • 1K

    Posts

  • 37K

    Comments

Community moderators