270 points

The “Not enough mod tools” complaint is valid and I hope that improves as the platform moves forward.

I DO NOT get the disdain for the Lemmy userbase. I’ve been here for the past 4-5 months and can say I’ve had so many more meaningful and fulfilling conversations here on Lemmy than I ever did on Reddit in the 10 years I was there.

I think it’s the same situation as between a small town and a big city. Reddit is huge and with a large number of people; you’re going to statistically get a larger number of assholes. Not to mention there are tens of thousands of people commenting on anything that hits r/all, so there’s no chance someone else is going to read your 1 comment that is drowning in a sea of other comments.

Lemmy feels more like a small town. Things move a little slower here, but there’s less competition to have your voice heard, and I end up seeing some of the same users time and time again across the Fediverse. I think that smaller feel means more people have a chance to see your content without it getting drowned out by the masses, which means more opportunity to make connections.

Some people suck, but Lemmy has been fucking awesome for me so far and I love this place because of that.

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Idk. It seems like that was a bot trying to dissuade people from leaving Reddit. One of the reasons we left Reddit was bc of the bots.

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67 points

I had that kind of “astroturf-y” feel from the Reddit comment as well, but their opinion about mod tools is not entirely wrong.

The fear-mongering about CSAM being all over the place hasn’t been my experience, though. I’ve never come across CSAM here on Lemmy (sorry to those who have), but I don’t tend to keep NSFW posts on because I cruise Lemmy at work.

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I think CSAM isn’t prevalent here because the groups posting it know that they will get nuked from orbit by every other instance for doing so. I think there is still plenty of CSAM content posted on lemmy, but not on the main federated net/web, instead on a private net/web (you can whitelist federate instances, which would likely be what any group of instances handling illicit material would opt for)

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6 points

CSAM isn’t tagged as NSFW, because it’s trolls (criminals) posting it. I think the admins have been pretty on the ball with removing it though

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To be honest, the only CSAM I’ve encountered is having it mentioned during the Purge back when it happened. Nothing else. As far as I know Lemmy is quite well moderated.

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2 points

CSAM? What is that, I’ve never seen any NSFW at all.

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Can we please stop calling anyone who doesn’t agree with us a bot?

How is that a bot to you?

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New users who aren’t defederated from Lemmygrad and hexbear by default are what contribute to that perception

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I wonder what toxicity the redditor was referring to

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> lemmy.ml user

> incredibly stupid take on white privilege/western societies

why am I not surprised…

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39 points

I can definitely say that I have enjoyed interacting with folks on Lemmy more than on reddit. Lemmy has felt like small subreddits even in the larger communities.

Every place on the internet is gonna have people that suck but the vast majority of my interactions here have been nice.

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17 points

I’ve had so many more meaningful and fulfilling conversations here on Lemmy than I ever did on Reddit in the 10 years I was there.

For one thing, it feels there is so much stronger of a push here to read the article instead of just the headline. Especially appreciated when someone adds the article to the post or leaves it in a comment. TLDR bot isn’t for me but it helps.

There’s also so much less of a push to be that meme comment that hits the top. There are still jokes but it’s not this barrage of people trying to be the class clown at the expense of meaningful conversation.

But especially the bots. Holy crap the bots were making it such a headache. The same comment slightly adjusted then posted over and over as replies to top comments for karma farming. The same stolen repost on 20 slightly similar subreddits and it doesn’t really belong on half of them. Not that Lemmy would be immune to this if it were as big as Reddit but sheesh I wish Reddit cared about the quality of content. They’re fine with whatever keeps people coming back and I guess that kind of content appeals to the most people.

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16 points

Same here. I have had better experience here than reddit. Much fewer one line / meme responses and more actual discussion on a topic.

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15 points

I DO NOT get the disdain for the Lemmy userbase. I’ve been here for the past 4-5 months and can say I’ve had so many more meaningful and fulfilling conversations here on Lemmy than I ever did on Reddit in the 10 years I was there.

Personally I have to disagree when anyone says how much nicer, better, greater the community here is. From my experience its pretty much the same as on Reddit by now. You got nice people and you got people who just like to argue for no good reason. But I think thats just how it is online these days and I don’t see it as a bad thing. Just disagree that community-wise this is so much better than Reddit. But I guess thats an unpopular opinion.

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I’m glad you shared your experience, honestly.

I’m happy with what I’ve seen here, but I’ll also say that I didn’t hang out in too many smaller subreddits. Even when I did, I saw some vitrol come out on the regular. Maybe the vibe on smaller subreddits is better than Lemmy?

Either way, I’m glad you’re here.

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9 points

I definitely get the small town feel. Like I regularly run into the same users, even from different instances. No one here tries to be a jerk, at least from what I’ve seen. And when you create content, people actually look and care.

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A lot of it is also the instance you are on. Having my account on Lemmy.world I do not have to deal with hexbear for example. They don’t have downvotes on their instance and have a totally different culture from the other instances.

Also, know that a lot of people that ended up on Lemmy are actually the banned rejects from reddit. And maybe seeing they don’t get their “free speech” here either is what made them not believe in the platform.

I have very much been enjoying my time here, most people have been wonderful.

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Agreed wholeheartedly. The Lemmy community has been wonderful. People here actually have good conversations, even if they take a few days to do so, unlike the folks on Reddit. Reddit comments were more meme-y and less substantive.

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2 points

Yeah this is basically like reddit prior to the DIGG migration. People are much nicer here.

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Redditalternatives has two types of folks who visit it, the smaller one thinks reddit is shit because of the choices the employees make. The larger one thinks reddit is shit because spooky woke moralist SJW shills paid by George Soros are censoring free speech via coordinated downvote, report, and ban campaigns… Sometimes a person occupies both groups.

The former group likes Lemmy et. al. The latter gets on here, sees a pro union post top of all, shits themselves dehydrated, and leaves to write screeds like that one.

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The former group likes Lemmy et. al. The latter gets on here, sees a pro union post top of all, shits themselves dehydrated, and leaves to write screeds like that one.

So you’re saying we should upvote even more pro union content.

I’m doing my part!

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30 points

Is this collective action to force change?

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19 points

We have to take a first step if we’re ever going to reach our fully automated luxury gay space communist goals.

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15 points

shits themselves dehydrated

You have a real way with words. Definitely stealing this one

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shits themselves dehydrated

I’m dying

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1 point

I don’t really see any hint of the poster being from the latter group though

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As a 10+ year reddit user who has switched 98% to Lemmy, only checking reddit on my computer every couple days: Lemmy is completely fine, and I have seamlessly transitioned from Reddit.

Its userbase is more technical than Reddit’s, and there’s not as much content. But it is a perfectly good Reddit alternative. I find it isn’t as addictive as reddit, which is awesome. I just wish there were more educational communities akin to AskHistorians, AskScience, etc.

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I’m a 15-year user of Reddit. Lemmy right now is very similar to very early Reddit. Reddit’s users were more technical back then, too. I’m betting the early adopters of places like this are usually the technical types.

Another nice thing about Lemmy is that a lot of the low-effort, casual users on Reddit haven’t gotten here yet. Interaction here is definitely a lot more pleasant.

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7 points

Also 15 year account and 100% agreed.

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38 points

It’s very akin to reddit ~10 years ago. Grammar nazis, “um actually” and pedantic debates are everywhere. You just have to not engage and consistently remember the other guy is probably a sweaty nerd who cares way more than you do.

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The worst part is the pedants aren’t even right most of the time. I’ve seen so many people complaining about perfectly acceptable sentence structure.

I tell myself they’re just younger folks that have been failed by their schools, but then I get sad that they’re younger folks that have been failed by their schools.

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Actually, it’s not always young kids, we all suck at grammar and that’s okay. If clear communication took place, who cares?

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6 points

Let’s be honest - we’re all sweaty nerds here

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6 points

I actually have a sweating disorder where I sweat all day. I’m also a software engineer.

I finally feel like I belong.

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29 points

Ditto. No issues with Lemmy here. I mean, there were a couple of annoying communities (to me anyway) but it was easy to block them.

Generally I’ve not noticed any toxic behaviour otherwise. At all.

In fact I was somewhat taken aback at the quality of responses to my last post. It’s going to take me days to research all the options and advice I was given. And from what I could see, most if not all the comments were informative and interesting.

The signal to noise ratio here is excellent, even if the numbers of comments etc are lower.

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The only toxic I got was when I accidental posted in a conservative thread without realizing what it was. Basically like /r/conservative. Fortunately I was able to block the instance and move on.

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9 points

mmmm askhistorians was one of my favourite late night prowls.

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5 points

Its* userbase.

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14 points

That is an incomplete sentence.

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4 points

“sentence fragment”

“‘sentence fragment’ is also a sentence fragment.”

“must conserve battery power”

closes eyes

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It’s not a sentence. Checkmate!

(I upvoted you.)

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Big oof. Corrected, to my great and utter shame. I am debased before you, o grammar sage!

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Lol glad to help!

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127 points

Lotta people coming here from Reddit expecting 1:1 replacement, and then get pissy that the 2 man dev team that’s just trying to keep up with this sudden burst in activity isn’t at parity with the multi-million dollar company that’s been developing their site for almost 2 decades.

Honestly, I’m just tired of the constant comparison. Lemmy can be it’s own thing. It’s a work in progress and it has a lot of promise, but for anyone looking for their reddit experience, there’s really only one place to get that.

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25 points

I don’t want Lemmy to be as big as reddit. When it does it’s guaranteed to be enshittified.

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33 points

It’s an open source project. It has no investors driving it toward user hostile profit seeking which is the primary force behind enshittification. A large user base doesn’t cause it, merely triggers it where the cause is already present.

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I’m aware, that doesn’t mean it’s impossible though.

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7 points

Instance admins are already compromised sometimes. They can be bribed or get greedy.

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Also, fuck that guys tone. Condescending prick calling other people pedantic.

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125 points

Say we’re going to leave Reddit if the API changes go through

Actually leave Reddit

Refuse to elaborate

Get called toxic by the people who chose to stay

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38 points

Honestly glad I left. For now at least when I see that new message number I’m not terrified of what I’ll find inside

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14 points

Yup, I haven’t even bothered deleting my account. I’ll get to it eventually, but I just don’t go to Reddit anymore. I’ve been hereb since the API announcement (didn’t wait for it to take effect), and I’ve been reasonably happy here.

I will say that lemmy seems a bit more leftist than Reddit, at least in the communities I visit. On Reddit, you’ll get Bernie bros and whatnot, whereas on lemmy there’s a lot of literal socialists/communists. But at least there are fewer far right folks baiting people into one sided debates. I find the socialists and communists easier to detect, so I think lemmy so far wins.

Lemmy isn’t perfect, but it at least doesn’t have ads and I can use why client I want, or build my own. So I’ll stay until I find or build something better (I’m working on an experimental, distributed link aggregator).

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I’m a bit of a Bernie bro but some of the communities on here aren’t just left but like extreme left which is… different for sure. They’re at least more tolerable than the “We support free speech but not leftist speech” Republicans and the communities that are too much I can just block and never interact with. While I’m sure I’d still enjoy Reddit if I logged on or went back to the subs I used to be on, I refuse out of principle. I even feel gross when I need to visit subs to get niche tech answers. I won’t ever trust Reddit again and we’ve got some solid meme communities here. It does enough for what it is, I only hope we grow as Reddit continues to burn.

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6 points

Yup, agreed on most counts.

I consider myself a left leaning libertarian, and I generally feel more welcomed here than on Reddit. I still get lots of down votes for mentioning libertarianism (apparently that’s associated with facism somehow? Not my fault right wing nutjobs tried to steal the term), but I at least get decent discussion about actual policies, especially when I’m left of both major parties. That was a bit more rare on Reddit.

But even if lemmy was actually way worse than Reddit, I’m not going back, that bridge has been burned. If I ever needed to leave lemmy, I would pour more time into my decentralized link aggregator project.

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if you’re deleting your Reddit account, you should make your past content all garbage by using Powerdeletesuite

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A ton of the info on Reddit is still relevant.

Imagine if all the people who solved niche problems did this. All the information and knowledge they dispersed was deleted because of a grudge against a platform.

That would suck so badly.

So no, I don’t think I will.

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Same, I haven’t logged in since Apollo shut down. I occasionally check my small country’s sub through browser, as it’s not active enough on lemmy, but that’s it. I’m super happy with lemmy.

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