San Francisco says tiny sleeping ‘pods,’ which cost $700 a month and became a big hit with tech workers, are not up to code::The pods, which are 4-foot-high boxes constructed from wood and steel, made headlines after tech workers praised the spaces.

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I’m so sick of the coverage on this. There is a shared living space and bathrooms and shower, so it’s essentially a dormitory. Big whoop. Actually we could use more of such shared housing.

But then we wouldn’t be able to combine our hatred of tech workers with our complaints about the economy to turn this into a horror story.

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And the people utilizing these spaces are not the ones bitching. How odd…

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Yeah and while people are outraged at the squalor of it, they’re tech workers so no one’s actually concerned. It’s just an occasion to air one’s one bitching about the economy.

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The real dystopia here is San Francisco outlawing using your land how you want.

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I just read the article and I partially agree with you. It’s bureaucratic bullshit reasons.

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No one should be building living pods and then packing them full of people.

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Ok hot take, this is a perfectly valid move, 700 for location and a box to sleep in is a welcome option for many renters in the city. If there are shared spaces like kitchen baths etc this works.

If you want your own space, ok, this isn’t for you, but this alleviates a ton of rental demand which could lower rents in aggregate if enough of these are built!

The alternative is your whole paycheck goes to rent and you retire a week before death, i’d be all for this if I were single.

Is someone making a profit? Most definitely, but I get a better option to run my career in the city, I’m down. Not only that, I hope this model picks up so more people can have the option.

My gripe here is the city, bitching about no windows when this is a pretty tangible solution to many renter’s problems. Either fix it yourself or get out the way when others are addressing it.

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what about when the person in the next bunk jerks off, farts, falls asleep, snores?

this is a nightmare scenario with no redeeming features that I’m sure will quickly lead depression if not violence

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Meh, if you’ve lived in an all boys dorm in a boarding school that’s really not an issue. The main issue is how the fuck is the property market is so fucked beyond relief that paying 700 dollars for a bunk bed a “welcome” option.

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ah yes, an all boys dormitory, what every young, grown man looks forward to in their adult life

this is some Road to Wigan Pier shit.

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This is what enough bootlicking does to a brain…

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You used to could find a one bedroom apartment for $900 and under and you think a $700 sleeping pod is a good idea??

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Did you just “well actually” slums?

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ugh, this is dysphorian THIS IS NOT FUCKING NORMAL. THIS IS LATE STAGE CAPITALISM

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This kid must be like 17-18 and has seen none of the world. This would be luxury to half the planet.

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half the planet lmao, no. Secondly you can point at the US why it’s so bad in those countries too

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Speaking of the relative cost of housing, you can buy an actual whole house in other parts of the USA for that much a month. That could be a 30-year mortgage payment on a 100k house.

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In San Francisco/Bay Area that doesn’t even cover a parking space per month.

In the US, the average home price sold was $495k. Where can you find a $100k house that doesn’t need a tear down or complete renovation?

source

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This is a dormitory with a shared living space, bathrooms and shower. If anything the “bunks” are quite generously sized.

Take a look at your comment and ask if maybe you’re flipping out unnecessarily.

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Late stage capitalism? They were doing shit like this in the 1800s. It IS capitalism.

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revolution time!

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Yea, in my city (where owning your apartment was pretty much impossible until 20th century), people rented out corners inside normal apartments.

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Like, seriously. It’s always been a thing.

In the 1800s, you could rent a space on a rope overnight so that you could drape yourself over it and have a place to sleep that night that wasn’t on the freezing, urine-soaked ground.

This has long been an issue.

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Holy balls. That was a wild read.

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ugh, this is dysphorian THIS IS NOT FUCKING NORMAL. THIS IS LATE STAGE CAPITALISM

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Ok obligatory fuck late stage capitalism. That said, hot take, this is a perfectly valid move, 700 for location and a box to sleep in is a welcome option for many renters in the city. If there are shared spaces like kitchen baths etc this works.

If you want your own space, ok, this isn’t for you, but this alleviates a ton of rental demand which could lower rents in aggregate if enough of these are built!

The alternative is your whole paycheck goes to rent and you retire a week before death, i’d be all for this if I were single.

Is someone making a profit? Most definitely, but I get a better option to run my career in the city, I’m down. Not only that, I hope this model picks up so more people can have the option.

My gripe here is the city, bitching about no windows when this is a pretty tangible solution to many renter’s problems. Either fix it yourself or get out the way when others are addressing it.

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As someone who’s not American and had a couple of job opportunities to move to San Francisco, I’m glad not to have done it.

What kind of hellhole is that city? I had an impression it was extremely expensive but also very wealthy. The more I hear the worse it seems.

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It’s expensive because of the concentration of wealth, not the quality of the area. There’s a ton of crime, homelessness, car break ins, etc.

People often leave their car doors unlocked or their windows down to prevent their windows from being broken, but instead they find random people sleeping in their cars.

On the plus side, the weather there is quite nice.

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You definitely should have done it for the resume and networking boost. San Francisco is expensive but you can definitely find deals the more you look for them. Plus the Bay Area is bigger than just San Francisco.

And regarding the other comment, $200K in SF is definitely better than $100K in Sacramento. More money is always better, unless it’s like a 10% bump. First of all, San Francisco is just more beautiful than Sacramento. Food is better. There’s more to do.

Second of all, Sacramento is getting more expensive because people are moving there from the Bay Area. It’s still cheaper, but prices are growing and you don’t live in a major city. People are paying $500K to live next to a cornfield.

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Houses in my area (Ione, about an hour south ish of Sac) going for 550k or so when I bought, and again, an hour from the “big city” (sac isn’t much of a big city compared to actual metropolis but still)

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California real estate is stupid. There is literal farm land right next to expensive ass homes. Building homes is like printing money.

The weather isn’t good enough to justify it, considering recent fires and the fact that you have to live in the Central Valley. Homes in hot-ass methlandia should not be that expensive.

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had an impression it was extremely expensive but also very wealthy.

The trouble with these kinds of statements is that there are always going to be “bottom of the ladder” workers who are still poor in these cities, and being poor in am expensive city is a shit load worse than being poor anywhere else

Even then, salaries are high, but the CoL more or less cancels it out. Even the wealthy SWEs I know who live in SF are barely able to swing 2 bedroom apartments that they share with an SO. That’s why you hear about new grads making $200k/year right out of college working for Meta or Google, it’s true, but you’d be better off in a lot of ways working for a small company in Sacramento for $100k

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A lot of problems coming together.

Nature is one, they’re warm year round so a lot of homeless folk are better off there.

Earthquakes prevent them from building tall. The surrounding hills make sprawl hard. Both the earth quakes and hills restrict the supply of housing.

And thats before you even start the leftist policies.

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I like the city but it’s not for everyone. I definitely wouldn’t call it a hellhole.

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What kind of hellhole is that city? I had an impression it was extremely expensive but also very wealthy. The more I hear the worse it seems.

LOL start reading about Dubai sometime.

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Dubai is much cheaper

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And much worse.

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San Francisco is one of the most beautiful cities in the world. And these tech bro pods, which are not really a thing here unlike in Japan where it’s been a thing for a long time, are a gimmicky joke.

You would get more space and a better place to live in a nicer neighborhood for a similar price if you simply got roommates here. It might be $900 rather than $700 but if you were sharing a bedroom, which would STILL give you more space than these pods, you could easily get down to below $700. These things are preying on tech kids out of college who only know dorm-style life and have been hired into the new AI startups.

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