212 points

This isn’t a meme.

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It’s text over a picture. It’s certainly an element of culture passed between people.

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13 points

this isn’t a meme (slang)

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I remember when someone adamantly tried to tell me that a copy-pasta wasn’t a meme….

And you’d be memeing if you tried to pull that shit on me all “ironic” like.

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Hate to break it to you, but a meme, by definition, is political propaganda.

Yes, all those images you’ve been laughing at these years were part of a political project. They looove hiding in plain sight.

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19 points

ah yes, the subliminal political message inherent in memes showing what my face looks like when i’m lying in bed and drop mh phone

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I guess some white guy on youtube needs to explain it before people will see the connection.

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10 points

Ah yes the widespread political message that was “me and the boys out at 3am looking for beans”

How could we possibly have missed those political overtones.

Dude you must be on some extremely powerful drugs if you think all memes are political propaganda.

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1 point

Can you explain?

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-181 points

tHiS iSn’T a mEmE

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74 points

I’m glad you agree

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13 points

Oh Jesus, it’s the same annoying guy that posts the stupid Dale Earnhardt “memes”.

This guy would upload the IRS tax handbook as a meme if he could

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1 point

Do you have a high res version of this not-meme?

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The bottom picture isn’t accurate, I live on a reservation that isn’t listed.

If there’s one mistake I notice immediately there’s definitely more.

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Additionally, most of Oklahoma is still various reservation lands. That was a recent court ruling, so I suspect this is a few years old.

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There’s a ton missing. The point still stands, but the bottom map is more like “places that are 70%+” indigenous people, rather than a comprehensive list. Is mislabeled to make a point, which is a stupid thing to do.

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122 points

My favorite part is not being able to read the font whatsoever.

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56 points

Pretty sure this is saved from an attachment from a forwarded email of a scan of a photo copy of a mimeograph.

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24 points

Im gonna fax this to my group chat

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7 points

Unironcally it looks like a picture from a fifth grade social studies book

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6 points

That the teacher photocopied 47 times and handed out as homework.

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4 points

Definelty at the very least a copy of a printout of an email attachment that was scanned from a fax…

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That’s ok, this map of native American lands is definitely outdated. The Haudenosaunee (Iroquois) lands are much smaller than it should be. As that’s the only tribal name I can actually read, I imagine it’s a similar story for the other tribes.

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me2

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58 points

So… Average history?

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Yeah, you can do the same for Russia, China, most European countries. Basically the entirety of Africa.

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8 points

China/Russia/Europe are largely inhabited by people whose ancestry traces back 1000s of years to the same region. That’s very different from North America, where most natives where killed (either through disease or “policy”).

That’s not to excuse their past behaviour (Europeans started the genocide in North America), but it’s still very different.

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Yup. That’s the biggest difference. My ancestors trace back to Beringia (what is now the Bering Strait) but my national leader is an 80 year old European American.

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Except for the Han Chinese with the Uyghurs and the Tibetans and the Mongolians.

I suppose you could even add their own people for the Chinese and the Russians when they were starved during the communist times.

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How’s the genocide of a whole continent “average history”? The magnitude of destruction in the Americas is not common and this downplay of a continent-wide genocide is annoying.

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Because there are other examples of continent wide genocide.

Humans are the fucking worst and it isn’t unique to one area

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because there are other examples

…ok? I guess I don’t get why there needs to be any comparison, since it inevitably ends up sounding like “oh, well this one wasn’t as bad as that one. Happens all the time.”

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Other examples existing does not change that it is historically unprecedented and far from the norm. And its just a really strange and pointless thing to point.

Person A: “my dad died in a car bomb” Person B: “ehh, average family death” A: “uhh what?” B: "well, there are other examples of people dying in car bombs, dude! "

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7 points

The Mongols genocided two continents and a sub continent.

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Did they? I was under the impression they came in, did a conquer, and basically left with the conquered understanding that the horde’d be back for their tribute.

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Because you’re lumping in the unavoidable disease transfer of first contact with intentional conquest and violence. Take away that, which was going to happen whenever any Afro-Eurasian community first interacted with people from the americas, and you get a very comparable situation to many things throughout history.

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The genocide didn’t happen solely after the first contact, the massacre of natives lasted centuries. Many nations were wiped out in the XIX century.

And a quote for you

Proponents of the default position emphasize attrition by disease despite other causes equally deadly, if not more so. In doing so they refuse to accept that the colonization of America was genocidal by plan, not simply the tragic fate of populations lacking immunity to disease.

Professor Roxanne Dunbar-Ortiz

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It wasn’t just disease that killed them. See: the Trail of Tears

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There’s strong evidence the disease was on purpos- Ah who am I fucking kidding, the colonizers flat out admitted it.

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So… Average history?

No

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Never forget? In some states it’s downright illegal to teach kids that complex, sophisticated and civilized societies existed here before white people showed up.

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I’ve been reading 1491 by Charles C Mann and telling my 14yo a lot of what I’ve been learning, it’s a fascinating book. We live in the rural southern Appalachians and I know for damn sure those teachers aren’t including nuance with their history.

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