The headphones: Probably zero.
The phone: Definitely possible, if you take care of it and are fine with not having the latest and greatest.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S8.
if you take care of it and are fine with not having the latest and greatest.
Also as long as they can get a battery replacement, it should go the distance. I would source them now, rather than in a few years when they may be hard to find.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S5. (with 3 more replacement batteries in the desk draw)
Eh, charging twice a day isn’t such a hassle. As long as the phone isn’t losing significant charge when its in sleep mode, it’s still a good daily driver.
Sent from my Samsung S3 mini (w LineageOS)
Although not having security updates on your phone is a good enough reason for me to upgrade a phone. I recently used a ROG Phone II for four years before switching to a Fold5 to get a better software update policy. I simply didn’t have the time anymore to fiddle with all my apps and fighting SafetyNet to use my banking apps because I used a custom ROM to keep my device updated.
It’s kind of fucked that we just accept that as an argument though isn’t it? Your desktop PC goes “out of support” when something physically requires hardware features or performance that isn’t present on the chip. Up until windows 11, you could essentially put a fully up to date and secure windows 10 on a 15 year old computer if it was beefy enough.
Now we put up with "my manufacturer doesn’t want to give me drivers for the device I bought but clearly don’t actually own, so it’s reasonable to pony up another $800 in 3 years to buy something new.
Android in the like 1.0 days installed and managed itself like a desktop is that could be installed on anything you could feed it drivers to. Why we as a society put up with anything less is beyond me.
The thing about security updates:
Sure, ditching your phone when it doesn’t get any more updates is the safest thing, but I can’t bring myself to do it for environmental reasons.
My phone runs Android 6, which currently has a 1% market share.
Who designs and deploys new malware that can only affect 1% of devices, most of which are probably secondary phones that only connect via Wifi behind a NAT by now? I’m not too worried about that.
sent from my Samsung Galaxy J5
I still have my S8 sitting a drawer. That phone was the first phone to jump to modern smartphones imo. The form factor is still the standard today and likely won’t go away.
Mobile phone might, but battery will go bad in 3-4 years and if it’s OLED screen it will show ghosting for sure after same period of time. Earbuds no chance. They will die much sooner, at least battery will.
The good news is any phone repair shop will be able to replace your battery for a reasonable price. Same with the screen but obviously that is a lot more expensive. My pixel 3 and pixel 1 hasn’t shown any ghosting in the screen yet but I don’t think I use apps with persistent UI often. Word of advice is use gesture navigation instead of the 3 buttons because the 3 buttons will burn in.
My SO watches a lot of YouTube so his 3a had burn in where the video usually is (like the top 1/3 of the device).
Yea, my 2nd gen Airpods are cooked after 4½ years of use. I get maybe 45min to an hour of battery and they’re tinny and quiet and the microphones speed working. A far cry from their performance when they were new but for listening to podcasts on the go they’re still good enough…
I’d consider 4.5 years quite good to be honest. I still dislike the idea of built-in expiration date, but it’s still a good time. Average is probably lower and closer to 2 years. LiIon batteries usually survive around 600-1000 charge cycles, more if you don’t use top 20% of the voltage range but no one is doing that these days. Maximum capacity starts dropping really fast, after some 2-3 months of use, as it’s frequently noticed with laptop batteries. So I’d say 4.5 years is about at the tail end of that expected maximum life. Wish they made batteries replaceable. But soon they will be thanks to EU.
I mean, let’s be honest, earbuds have always kind of been consumables. Before wireless, when the cable eventually broke, you had to get new ones. Now, it’s when the battery dies. The difference is, AirPods 2 are 150€ and EarPods, which are basically the same thing, just wired, are 20€…
OLED screen it will show ghosting for sure after same period of time
Is the ghosting somehow related with the AOD?
That is a feature that I always have off in mine, and I have it since 2020 using it daily and no issues about this so far.
Always online displays are more prone to this. Manufacturers mitigate this by moving numbers around, like screen saver. Simply put OLED screens emit light, instead of filtering it like LCD. Am not quite sure why they degrade over time, but they do… especially blue diodes. But how fast this forms really depends on usage patterns. Whether you like bright screen or not, whether you have AOD, whether there’s elements always visible on screen (back button, clock, etc). With my own devices at 3 years of use there wasn’t any signs but they start showing after that. My mom who uses the same device, after changing the screen, has this happen to her not even a year in.
My Nexus 4 from 2012 still works. It’s also running Android 13.
I still have one. I would be happy to install A13 if you have a link. Thanks!
Some of those nexus phones were duds. Bought my wife a Nexus 5X when they came out, it was already acting up that Christmas. We’ve all had hooptie phones somewhere along the line, but pretty much everyone I talked to that had a 5X or a 6P at the time seemed to be having major issues with them.
8 years would be the Nexus 6P. I booted mine up last year and aside from the faulty SoC it’s still a perfectly usable phone. Those dual front facing speakers are still great. Battery life is poor, but then it was poor to begin with.
I think we’ve also plateaued in terms of features. A phone in 2030 will probably have a brighter screen and slightly better camera, but outside of synthetic benchmarks I doubt it’s going to look or feel any different than the Pixel 8 will in day to day use.
Not even sure we will have phones by then, they probably will more or less be fully handheld computers. I mean they are pretty much already that, but you get some good storage and flexibility in operating systems, some sort of keyboard config, and I don’t even think laptops will be very common. My point is, I don’t think a phone from today will even be relevant in 2030.
How is the battery after that long?
I use my pixel xl every day for two years and now it has a 10 min battery life. It’s no longer a working phone and just a extra screen that’s permanently plugged in.
Ear buds no way.
Phone, would work fine though might have a bad battery at the end. But should still work ok.
Piss poor. 7 years of OS support, but I can almost guarantee you the hardware will die within 2 years.
California just passed a law that should affect the Pixel, and would require Google to provide replacement parts for the phone for 7 years also
My pixel 5 is still doing well and that’s 3 years old, only gave it up as it’s out of support
To be completely fair, I am extremely salty towards Google’s hardware division. I had a Pixel 3’s storage get corrupted and stopped booting about 7 months after purchase, and they refused to repair it or replace it (under warranty!) because I couldn’t prove I was the original owner. I was, but I couldn’t find the receipt. They eventually just stopped responding to me.
I tried again with the Pixel 6 recently and ran into so many weird OS glitches that my wife’s Samsung S20 didn’t have, and that resetting / updating didn’t fix that I eventually just sold it and washed my hands of ever buying Google hardware again.
