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Tolkien also created complete Languages for each race of his stories.

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Sometimes I think he just liked world-building, and writing stories about his world came second.

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117 points

From reading his biography, it seemed he mostly liked creating languages and then crafted stories and worlds based off them.

Tolkien’s the GOAT.

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43 points

He was a philology teacher, so that’s indeed the case. You see it with how much details the language have, like real languages dialects and evolution. It was really his craft.

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He only wanted to create languages, for fun… but he wanted to do it properly, so he needed full cultural backgrounds for his languages, including epic poetic sagas written in said languages… and to do that properly he needed a whole history of the world said languages and cultures had developed in… so the maniac built that. And then he wrote a children’s book set in that world, for his kids, as one does.

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They are called Paracosms. He was writting languages during his teens long before he got to stories.

Middle earth is the first item on the list of examples on https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paracosm

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It’s not impossible! It’s fairly niche and finding others who appreciate it before the age of the internet would’ve been tough.

Modern Tolkien would’ve probably been part of the various conlang communities, doing challenges and whatnot.

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31 points

Not only the languages but also an etymology for them to explain, how they developed.

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Wish he was better at naming characters though. Not every son needs a name that starts with the same letter as his father’s.

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30 points

What, you aren’t a fan of Aenor, son of Agenor, son of Agenar, son of Agenup, son of Ageflip, son of Agintur, Slayer of B’Thal’Muun?

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B’Thal’Muun was a peacemaker!

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2 points

Tell that to my 2nd degree aunt

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Frank Herbert: Giant sandworms lol. /j

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Frank Herbert: … and dogs that are also chairs… rips bong… chairdogs

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25 points

Duncan, Duncan, Duncan, Duncan

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17 points

lol Herbert had some weird fantasy about a guy named Duncan from Idaho. Only explanation for some of that stuff.

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He got a flat tire once in Duncan, Idaho. It was the early 60’s so things got freaky fast when he was picked up by a colorfully painted bus . . .

Let’s just say the memories will never die.

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Frank Herbert is what happens when a genius writer takes too much shrooms while studying dunes. Like that is literally what happened.

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I also like to kidnap my entire family in my used hearse then do a shitload of amphetamines in the Mexican desert immediately after completing a formal education in the newly developed science of ecology that ended with learning about the inevitability of man made climate change continuing to accelerate the greatest and final planetary mass extinction event, the holocene era

Yeah I feel that shit in my soul bro, for sure

Whomst amongst us hasn’t done a Herbert once or twice

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Calling him a genius writer is probably being a bit too generous, what with all the beefswellings and all that

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Cmon, you just gotta do more shrooms and re-read Dune bro.

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13 points

Fuckin Herbert just decided to write philosophy disguised as a sci-fi story lol

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62 points

Tolkien is clearly the best, but I don’t have a problem with Martin borrowing from real-life history. History is incredibly cool, and full of amazing stories. Stealing from other authors is bullshit, though.

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Then you have the author of Twilight that started world building after the first book, created a number of characters with interesting background lore, then proceeded to do nothing with any of it.

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It’s even worse than that - Twilight was originally fanfic for Anne Rice’s Vampire Chronicles series, so it’s all just Lestat with a fake mustache and sparkles.

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And 50 shades was a Twilight fanfic…

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15 points

And Interview with the Vampire was fanfic based on a cross between Blacula and the David Frost interview of Richard Nixon…

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It’s really hard to criticize anything about Twilight after you learn it was literally self published fan fiction written by a Mormon house wife with ten kids that has never once in her life even seen a healthy or fulfilling relationship from a distance, or had a meal containing any form of seasoning, and will almost certainly die without having ever experienced even an aliquot of sexual pleasure

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Also, normally when you write supernatural fiction that rips off indigenous mythology, you don’t name drop the tribe that you’re taking from and proceed to integrate their real-world reservation heavily into your setting.

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Yet, somehow this would still probably be the most respectful treatment of any of the first nations by any Mormon, ever

The history of the Mormon church is like oops hahaha all war crimes I’m so silly

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I read that series out of spite when it was popular, and actually started getting interested in the lore and world when she started introducing fucking X-Men powers. Huge build up, huge hype, and then… fucking nothing. I shouldn’t have been surprised, but alas.

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2 points

Same.

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45 points

George Lucas: Let someone else handle it.

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as long as the broads are wearin’ short skirts

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14 points

“There’s no underwear in space.”

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9 points

George Lucas: I like money

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